L/V 10+ Tip of the Day #254 example of Text Comparison and Cross-reference usage

MJ. Smith

Another tip of the day (TOTD) series for Logos/Verbum 10. They will be short and often drawn from forum posts. Feel free to ask questions and/or suggest forum posts you'd like to see included. Adding comments about the behavior on mobile and web apps would be appreciated by your fellow forumites. A search for "L/V 10+ Tip of the Day site:community.logos.com" on Google should bring the tips up as should this Reading List within the application.

This tip is inspired by the forum post: Information wanted on translation use especially use of multiple translations in your church and in your resources - Logos Forums

I was reading the response by Jerome Smith, author of Smith, Jerome H. The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge: The Most Complete Listing of Cross References Available Anywhere- Every Verse, Every Theme, Every Important Word. Nashville TN: Thomas Nelson, 1992. (updated versions on feedbear). I became curious and followed his Faithlife link to his website which is an interesting example of a specific style of Bible study. Logos has strong support for the method behind his blog -- Text Comparison tool and the Cross-reference guide section; Important Passages guide section could supplement the Cross-references.

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Daily Bible Nugget #760, Psalm 9:17

Posted on July 8, 2023 by Jerry

The Nugget:
Psa 9:17  The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. (KJV)
Psa 9:17  Let sinners be driven away into Hades, even all the nations that forget God. (Brenton LXX)
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into Sheol, all the nations that forget God. (Darby)
Psa 9:17 The sinners and all the nations who have no memory of God will be turned into the underworld. (Basic English Bible)
Psa 9:17  Don’t forget this: all the wicked will one day fall into the darkness of death’s domain and remain there, including the nations that forget God and reject his ways. (TPT)
Psa 9:17 The wicked are turned back and sent to Sheol;
this is the destiny of all the nations that ignore God,
Psa 9:18 for the needy are not permanently ignored,
the hopes of the oppressed are not forever dashed. (NET)
Psa 9:17 The wicked will go down to the world of the dead to be with those nations that forgot about you.
Psa 9:18 The poor and the homeless won’t always be forgotten and without hope.
Psa 9:19 Do something, LORD! Don’t let the nations win. Make them stand trial in your court of law.
Psa 9:20 Make the nations afraid and let them all discover just how weak they are. (CEV)
Cross Reference study for Psalm 9:17 from The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:
Psalms 9:17
The wicked. or, wicked ones (plural). Heb. rasha. Psa 37:38; Psa 139:19; *Psa 145:20, Jos 10:40, 1Ki 2:9, Job 10:15, Pro 14:32; Pro 24:20, **Ecc 8:8, Isa 3:11; Isa 5:14, *Mat 25:41, 42, 43, 44, 5, 46, *Rom 2:8; *Rom 2:9, *2Th 1:7, 8, 9, Jas 1:15, *Rev 20:15; *Rev 21:8.
turned. Gen 37:35 note. Compare Job 21:26; Job 34:15; Psa 104:29; Ecc 3:20; Ecc 12:7 (CB). Psa 63:9, Exo 34:7, Eze 31:17, Eze 32:21, %**+Eze 32:27 note. +*Mat 10:28 note. +*Luk 12:5; Luk 16:23.
hell. Heb. sheol, +Gen 37:35. T561. Psa 1:5; Psa 11:6; +*Psa 16:10; Psa 18:5; %Psa 30:5; *Psa 55:15; Psa 139:8, +*Deut 32:22; +Deut 32:43 (T237). Job 21:20; Job 26:6; Job 31:3; Job 36:13, Pro 15:24; Pro 27:20, Isa 5:14; **Isa 33:14; +*Isa 66:24, Eze 31:17, Hos 13:9; Hos 13:14, *Mal 4:1, Mat 3:7; *Mat 3:10, 11, 12; Mat 7:19; Mat 7:27; Mat 8:11, 12; *Mat 13:40, 41, 42; *Mat 13:47, 48, 49, 50; Mat 11:23, 24; Mat 23:33; +**Mat 25:32 (T387), Mat 25:41; Mat 25:46, Mar 9:43, 44, *+Luk 16:22; *+Luk 16:23; *+Luk 16:24 (T343). Joh 5:28, 29; Joh 15:6; Joh 17:12, +Rom 11:22 (T236). 1Co 16:22, Php 3:18, 19, 2Th 1:6, 7, 8, 9; *2Th 2:3; *2Th 2:9, 10, 11, 12, Heb 10:26, 27, +Jas 1:15 (T287). 2Pe 2:4; 2Pe 2:9, 10; 2Pe 2:17; 2Pe 3:7, Jud 1:7, Rev 19:20; *Rev 20:15; +*Rev 21:8.
that forget God. Not the heathen, as such; but all (of whatever race) who willfully forget, and put away from them, that knowledge of Himself which God has inscribed on men’s consciences (Kay). T692. Psa 10:4; +Psa 14:1 (T22). Psa 44:17; Psa 44:20; *Psa 50:22; Psa 79:6; Psa 106:13; Psa 106:21, Deut 32:18, Jdg 3:7, 1Sa 12:9, *Job 8:13, Isa 17:10, Jer 2:32; Jer 3:21; *Jer 13:25; Jer 18:15; Jer 23:27, Eze 20:9; Eze 22:12, Hos 2:13, Joh 3:19, Rom 1:18, 19, 20, 21; Rom 2:6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 2Pe 3:3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.
 
My Comment:
There is no escaping the FACT that the Bible teaches the eternal, never-ending, punishment of the wicked and the unsaved in what is commonly referred to as hell in our English Bible translations. On a more technical level, it is possible to dig deeper into the Bible to learn more about the subject of eternal punishment as it is reflected in the meanings of the original language words underlying our English translations. I have furnished the cross references and notes as given at Psalm 9:17 which enable any reader here to pursue such a study accurately.
The solution to the moral and spiritual deterioration in our nation and society is for more individuals to actually read the New Testament for a long enough time daily (at least 20 minutes a day) and often enough weekly (at least 4 days a week) on a continuing basis until genuine, permanent, spiritual awakening occurs. I know this by personal experience. This suggestion has been confirmed as to its validity and effectiveness in the lives of those who will faithfully follow this suggestion by research reported by Barna and Pew Research.