New Insights Sidebar on the web app
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Amazing.
Thanks a lot Logos' team.
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Love it. Especially when it is showing on the sidebar. Should bring to desktop and ipads.
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At this point it's not helpful, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to get Logos to not open Insights by default. I usually have other resources chosen in other parts of my layout, and Insights takes up more horizontal space than I want to give up.
But that said, it could be useful if it shows me useful resources. I don't have much faith that an AI-based selection will be worth the horizontal space, but who knows?
The main change - I would like to make the default state of Insights to be hidden, not shown. I can find the button if I want to see it. My best insights have always come from the word of God itself, and I'm cautious about what things (with the best intention) might color my lenses uncritically.
Desktop - maybe. Mobile - be careful. Screen real estate is precious there, as are clock cycles. I'd rather not have something like this intruding on my workflow on the web. It could really annoy me on mobile.
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Jesse Jacobsen said:
I'm having trouble figuring out how to get Logos to not open Insights by default.
It is currently in beta and "on" by default. There isn't currently a way to set it "off" by default... you have to manually do so. This will not always be the case.
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I hope this remains on the web app and doesn't come to desktop. If it does come to desktop then we need a setting to turn it on and off.
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Matt Hamrick said:
If it does come to desktop then we need a setting to turn it on and off.
If it comes (probably will) it will have an on/off.
The web app allows Logos to try new things out... right now this in in beta and haven't coded the on/off switch yet (plus they want as many people to try it as possible).
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JT (alabama24) said:Matt Hamrick said:
If it does come to desktop then we need a setting to turn it on and off.
If it comes (probably will) it will have an on/off.
The web app allows Logos to try new things out... right now this in in beta and haven't coded the on/off switch yet (plus they want as many people to try it as possible).
I understand but it's in the way. I no longer use the web app because every time I load my bible is open because that's how I prefer it to open and the insights is invading my space. Yeah I have to click it off. Every time I use the web app so I just stopped using it.
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Jesse Jacobsen said:
I don't have much faith that an AI-based selection will be worth the horizontal space, but who knows?
Why do you say AI-based selection? It appears to me to be based on my prioritization but I don't recall seeing anything stating either way.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Matt Hamrick said:
I no longer use the web app because every time I load my bible is open because that's how I prefer it to open and the insights is invading my space.
At some point, what you want (or don't want!) will be fixed on the web app.
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I like the concept, but I will already have a study bible and commentary opened and linked (I'm a 3 panel guy).
What I would want to see here are "hidden gems" of some sort, i.e.
key words,
key Greek/Hebrew words with a link to a lexicon,
textual variants,
Bible comparison of the verse from my top 5 bibles,
key timeline events.
I don't like that it eats up half of the bible tab, I would prefer it be in a separate tab maybe.
I believe this should be available also in the desktop app, but since I am not a fan of the mobile app I defer to those who do.
I like that you continue to develop the Web App. I am using this more and more. Thank you.
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I love it. I just wish it would endlessly scroll! 3-6 sentences worth of relevant information is great when pressing "more".
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While I appreciate the potential value of Insights... as it will likely develop down the road a piece (as is the wonderful case of Logos development) right now it is irritating in that it is "on" when I go to the web app and I manually have to turn it off every time. Would appreciate an option to be able to turn it on as I needed, as per everything else in Logos. Thank you!
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Mark VanOuse said:
Would appreciate an option to be able to turn it on as I needed, as per everything else in Logos.
That is the plan.
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- Is it helpful: Not really - nothing new that's not already accessible.
- Can you see yourself (I can't speak for others) using it? No.
- What changes would you make? It would not open automatically.
- What info? None.
- Is it worth bringing? No.
Everything in here is already at my fingertips. I have gone through great pains to configure my desktop the way I want it, then saving as a web app so when I start it up it looks the way I want. This Insights tab automatically appears and the first thing I have to do is to close it. If you must keep it, at least allow me to turn it off.
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BTW...the whole reason I came here today was to look for a way to turn this off. I switch between Bibles a lot and this is super aggravating. I'm glad that this is a planned feature, but so disappointed that there isn't a current fix.
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I appreciate this new idea. [:D]
I think that would also be useful to add an option to make custom sections. In each section, you could choose your resources and prioritize them.
For example, in my case, I have to study the Scripture in the original languages. I need to pay attention to grammar, morphology, historical context, archaeology...
In that case, it could be useful to give the opportunity to create custom sections. For example:
- Philology.
- Archaeology.
- Commentaries.
- ...
If you add this, Logos software could be more useful for research and academic study.
May God bless you all
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Fernando-Elías
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I appreciate this new idea. [:D]
I think that would also be useful to add an option to make custom sections. In each section, you could choose your resources and prioritize them.
For example, in my case, I have to study the Scripture in the original languages. I need to pay attention to grammar, morphology, historical context, archaeology...
In that case, it could be useful to give the opportunity to create custom sections. For example:
- Philology.
- Archaeology.
- Commentaries.
- ...
If you add this, Logos software could be more useful for research and academic study.
May God bless you all
--
Fernando-Elías
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I would like to have the option of adding multiple commentaries, as well as adding a encyclopaedia or Bible dictionary. That would make the tool brilliant as those are alway the tabs I have open next the Scriptures while studying, preparing teaching, etc.
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I have been enjoying this feature. It's a nice way to quickly see available resources for deeper study. I say keep it so people at least have the option to use it or "lose "it.
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a nice progress to the best.
Blessings in Christ.
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a nice progress to the best.
Blessings in Christ.
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If the insights can be made like the passage guide with all the functions like commentaries, dictionary, cross reference, biblical theology, systematic theology, biblical people, biblical places and so on it would be great. Then we can stay on page with access to all all resources without flipping between pages on mobile.
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I like the feature. I find it very useful. I need all the help I can get to study the Bible.
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I personally really like this feature and would love to have it available for the desktop app as well!
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- ¿Es útil? Me ha servido para relacionar varios pasajes de las sagradas escrituras y acceder rápidamente a algunos comentarios. Puede mejorarse la parte comentarios.
- ¿Puedes verte a ti mismo o a otros usándolo? Si sobre todo cuando se trabaja en investigación Bíblica.
- ¿Qué cambios harías? Mejoraría la referencia de loc comentarios, solo aparecen los de Matthew Henri
- ¿Qué información adicional le gustaría ver? Referencias relacionadas con el Magisterio de la Iglesia Católica.
- ¿Vale la pena llevarlo a computadoras de escritorio o dispositivos móviles? Si, lo encuentro muy útil. o por lo menos dar la opción de activarla.
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I love this idea. Give's me quick references, without needing to look things up--as it's already available on the page. What would be even better, is an option to Listen to the Content when it comes up.
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Mark VanOuse said:
While I appreciate the potential value of Insights... as it will likely develop down the road a piece (as is the wonderful case of Logos development) right now it is irritating in that it is "on" when I go to the web app and I manually have to turn it off every time. Would appreciate an option to be able to turn it on as I needed, as per everything else in Logos. Thank you!
When you turn the Insights Sidebar on or off, it will now remember that state, even when you re-open the panel.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
When you turn the Insights Sidebar on or off, it will now remember that state, even when you re-open the panel.
Great!
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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neat idea, but let us be able to pick the ones we want, and it would be helpful to see on mobile, but let us check it, what I mean is don't have it come up itself, let us be able to check it. let us also have passage-guide and the like.
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I like the concept but needs further refinement.
1) give the pane ability to locate to another position. I use the web based app on my iPad and the window sizing interferes with the reading pane - Right now it is either open or closed. Have not found a way to repopen.2) The feature should have the ability to scan all of the library resources and offer suggestion. It does not do so currently.
3) add the ability to go to the App Store for additional resources.
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