statements regarding the Johannine Canon

Christian Alexander
Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

I want to search my library for statements regarding the Johannine Canon. For example what did Dionysius  and others say about the Johannine Canon? According to Eusebius, Origen knew of both 2 and 3 John, although he was aware that all did not consider them genuine. Where is this found? How would you go about searching your library for this kind of information?

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First of all, I wouldn't use the term "Johannine canon" as that is very much a niche term, I would look for "Johannine literature" or "Johannine writings" or "antilegomena" if my concern was primarily the debate regarding the inclusion of epistles 2 & 3 in the canon. If your interest is their inclusion in the canon, I would look in detailed books on the formation of the New Testament canon where the footnotes/bibliography/text should give you the references for Eusebius, Pseudo-Athanasius, Patriarch Nicephorus, Musculus, Oecolampadius, Peshitta . . .

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,414 ✭✭✭
    According to Eusebius, Origen knew of both 2 and 3 John, although he was aware that all did not consider them genuine. Where is this found? 
    HOC 6.25

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • GregW
    GregW Member Posts: 266 ✭✭

    How would you go about searching your library for this kind of information?

    As far as Eusebius is concerned, I’d search his History of the Church for Origen, which will give you the reference DMB referred to above. although the chapter doesn’t refer to Origen directly, there are fortunately a couple of footnotes in the Schaffer edition that do, which brings it into the search. More widely, I’d start by looking up John in a good-quality Bible Dictionary and follow through the references from there. Most technical commentaries also have introductions which will deal with such things as well. There are also quite a few books available in Logos that deal with the debates about the Johannine literature, and these will also help in finding the references you are looking for.  

    if you want Logos to do a lot of the work for you, you could do a lot worse than type “Johannine literature” into the Facebook. That gives you a lot of good entry points.