Making a Scripture Index
What is the most efficient way to create a scripture index for a monograph (that doesn't have one in the resource)?
I prefer to do this in Logos, not a PB or external software.
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I've created passage lists for print books.
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I agree with NB.Mick. Go to tools and select concordance, then select the book you want and "reference." Or click the link. Unfortunately, the concordance tool does not offer any meaningful way to export.
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Doc B said:
What is the most efficient way to create a scripture index for a monograph (that doesn't have one in the resource)?
It only gives references not locations but:
- create Passage List
- open resource
- select all text (control+A) or do so in sections
- add to passage list from clipboard
- sort
Note this will also include versified references other than the Bible - edit as needed
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Perhaps I should be more clear: I want a scripture index, not a passage list. A scripture index lists each verse cited in the monograph (usually in canon order) along with a page number, link to the location(s), or similar. It can be annotated or simply a list of page numbers.
Yes, I could create one manually...that's what I'm hoping to avoid.
Is it even doable?
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I think that is what my concordance screenshot shows. What are you looking for different than that?
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Justin Gatlin said:
I think that is what my concordance screenshot shows. What are you looking for different than that?
I don't know...I've never used the Concordance tool. It seemed like a gimmick.
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Doc B said:
I don't know...I've never used the Concordance tool. It seemed like a gimmick.
One that will save you lots of time.
It just ripped through a monograph of mine in seconds and got 3000 bible refs.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave Hooton said:
It just ripped through a monograph of mine in seconds and got 3000 bible refs.
I'll try it.
How do I isolate bible refs from 'words'?
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Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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ok. Help me understand the Concordance a bit better (and I did watch videos about this).... Let's say I am in NKJV, Acts 2:38. So I open the Concordance Tool...
1. The C. Tool opens up but does not reference Acts 2:38. Where does it open to? It's in "Word" and seems to list any and all words that can be thought of... but in all that, I have to hunt and search up and down the list to find any words in Acts 2:38. What's up with that?
2. I change the C.Tool to "reference". It lists all the books of the bible.... but again does not reference Acts 2:38???
3. So I scroll down the books it does list... find Acts and click it. Again, I have to scroll down to 3:38 and click it. Which now shows, what I think to be, cross references to Acts 2:38???
I'm probably not understanding how it was meant to be used. but.... looks like it would be better if it was actually using the verse where I am in my bible.... and not making me hunt through various lists to find whatever it is that I am looking for.
Lay it on me.... where did I go wrong? [:D]
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
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xnman said:
I'm probably not understanding how it was meant to be used. but.... looks like it would be better if it was actually using the verse where I am in my bible.... and not making me hunt through various lists to find whatever it is that I am looking for.
That's not what the Concordance Tool is designed to do
From https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015929112-Concordance-Tool
"The Concordance tool builds a dynamic index of any resource in your library. It analyzes the data in that resource, extracts it, and allows you to filter the results."
What were you hoping / expecting to find?
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xnman said:
Lay it on me.... where did I go wrong?
I think you are missing the concept. Did you ever have a printed concordance in your hand or looked into the index at the back of a printed book?
A concordance is an index that captures information about a book. There may be (or have been) a printed concordance for the NKJV, most probably abridged and possibly even hand-curated. It is fully irrelevant from which position in a book you are coming when you open or build a concordance.
A concordance will help you answer questions like
- how often and where is a word used in the book/bible
- which persons/books/bible verses are cited/referenced in a book
The automated generation in Logos means the concordance is accurate and complete, and you can narrow results down using filter facets to a certain extend.
Does this help?
Have joy in the Lord!
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xnman said:
Help me understand the Concordance a bit better (and I did watch videos about this).... Let's say I am in NKJV, Acts 2:38. So I open the Concordance Tool...
1. The C. Tool opens up but does not reference Acts 2:38. Where does it open to? It's in "Word" and seems to list any and all words that can be thought of... but in all that, I have to hunt and search up and down the list to find any words in Acts 2:38. What's up with that?
2. I change the C.Tool to "reference". It lists all the books of the bible.... but again does not reference Acts 2:38???
1. Whatever videos you watched, they don't represent the behaviour of the Concordance tool as it is not meant to track with any resource (there are no Link sets).
2. The "C.tool" does not have a single "Reference" list. The tool stores information from resources that you select and enables you to find specific words or references in the resource i.e. it will find words or references that are in Acts 2:38 in your resource.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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As always, thanks to all. Don't know what I would do without you guys help on the forums! I appreciate it!
Edit: I think I was looking for a more narrowed concordance view... but I just needed to learn.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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Thanks, MJ! That's what I was missing.
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OK, I ran it but I still think it's a gimmick, unless I'm missing several important means. (With Logos, that isn't hard.)
First, I get a nice index referenced by page numbers. Good so far.
But then, they are all closed (two levels of closed), and I can't find a way to 'expand all.'
Next, I can't DO ANYTHING with it. It won't export. Even if I go through and manually expand each, when I export it, it only shows the top layer. Here are two screenshots showing this-
So, given the C tool will create a scripture index, what good is it if I can't use it? The text can't be highlighted to I can't move it to a PL or another app.
???????????
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Doc B said:
but I still think it's a gimmick
As I had used a free academic concordance builder for years before Logos created theirs, I will agree that Logos implementation is imperfect. In the stand alone one, I could
- create my own omit word lists
- create my own combine word lists
- explore n-tuples (multi-part linguistic units/fixed phrases)
But I was used to having no export/print functions so that hasn't bothered me. I do agree that the current export is a bit lame but I still consider it an essential tool not a gimmick. Your thinking of it as a gimmick is not incorrect - it merely tells me that you don't perform the tasks that require it. I could say much the same about cross-references much of the time.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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