L/V 10+ Tip of the Day #300 Logos bias - product vs. process

MJ. Smith
MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,267
edited November 21 in English Forum

Another tip of the day (TOTD) series for Logos/Verbum 10. They will be short and often drawn from forum posts. Feel free to ask questions and/or suggest forum posts you'd like to see included. Adding comments about the behavior on mobile and web apps would be appreciated by your fellow forumites. A search for "L/V 10+ Tip of the Day site:community.logos.com" on Google should bring the tips up as should this Reading List within the application.

This tip is inspired by the forum post: What's the best way of summarizing an article? - Logos Forums and Tagged Texts - Logos Forums

"Logos Bible Study Platform" as a name change elicits a quiet chuckle not a knowing nod from me for the simple reason that I think Logos encourages research rather than study i.e. seeing how others analyze things rather than teaching/encouraging one to do it for oneself. Unfortunately, we no longer get regularly rants from George on the topic of interlinears.

See the sentence analyzed and diagrammed for us in Reed-Kellogg and tree structure, the latter frequently coded in unfamiliar vocabulary; the text outlined for us - generally the high level outlines with detailed outlines on the to do heap; discourse analysis nicely tagged so we have one theory, one set of tags, and one group of taggers ... and unfortunately, it isn't my favorite theory of discourse grammar. And from What's the best way of summarizing an article? - Logos Forums I glean Logos may be considering adding summarization to the tasks they do for us.

Now, for one tool (upper left) see the product I actually use Syntax Tree Generator (mshang.ca)

The difference is that I analyze the sentence in the box using brackets and abbreviations that mean something to me i.e. my favorite terminology/theory. The drawing is done for me. If I don't like it or think I made an error, I move some brackets and see it in a new form. The tool asks me to engage in the process of analyzing the sentence rather than giving me a product for me to look at and nod my head wisely as if I actually understood. When Logos gives me a tool - Sentence diagrammer or Canvas - it is a tool that makes me spend my time fiddling around to get it to look right. As one can see from shared documents it is possible to get excellent results but my motor skills mean I usually don't ... mine look worse than my rough paper drafts in pre-computer days.

From the Sentence diagrammer

or from Canvas

The point being that Logos is a research tool which puts the answers in the main text and the questions in the back -- the reverse of a textbook. The good news is that as a user you can reject the product bias and actually do the task of learning and understanding.  A Logos has a number of good texts on grammar, syntax, hermeneutics and exegesis to help you learn how.

Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

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  • Bill
    Bill Member Posts: 336 ✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    Logos is a research tool which puts the answers in the main text and the questions in the back

    [I] I just realized the significance  of this! And AI summarizing is like a fast food pick up order[:D]

    MJ. Smith said:

    Logos has a number of good texts on grammar, syntax, hermeneutics and exegesis to help you learn how.

    Would you like to share your top five for each?

    Too soon old. Too late smart.