How do I create a Passage List?

Christian Alexander
Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

How do I create a Passage list that shows missing verses in the ESV versus the Septuagint canon? 

EDIT: Many times in the Lexham English Septuagint there are extra verses usually labelled with letters, not numbers. For example 6a, 14a, 14b, 14c...

16 And Jobz lived after the misfortune one hundred and seventy years, and all the years he lived were two hundred and forty, and Joba saw his childrenb and the childrenc of his childrend to the fourth generation. 17 And Jobe died an old man and full of days.
17a And it is written that he shall rise again with the ones whom the Lord shall raise up. 17b This man is described by the Syriac book as dwelling in the land of Uzf on the borders of Edomg and Arabia. And his name before was Jobab.h 17c And, having taken an Arabian wife, he beget a son, whose name was Enan. And he himself had as father Zerah,i from of the descendantsj of Esau. And his mother was Bosorra, so that it made him fifth from Abraham.k
17d And these were the kings who were ruling in Edom, which country also he himself ruled: first, Bela,l the son of Beor, and the name of his city was Dinhabah.m And after Bela,n Jobab,o who was called Job.p And after this, Husham,q who was serving as leader from the country of Thaiman. And after this, Hadad,r son of Bered,s who destroyed Midiant in the field of Moab, and the name of his city was Avith.

Rick Brannan et al., eds., The Lexham English Septuagint (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2012), Job 42:16–17d.

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle Member, MVP Posts: 32,446 ✭✭✭

    How do I create a Passage list that shows missing verses in the ESV versus the Septuagint canon? 

    Do you mean you want to identify verses in the Septuagint that don't appear in the ESV?

    Do you have any examples in mind?

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Logos Employee Posts: 5,362

    This page lists differences between different versification schemes, which is complicated, but might help: https://wiki.logos.com/Bible_Verse_Maps

    There is a way to see differences in a Passage List, but it requires some work to set up.

    1. Open ESV and open the inline search
    2. Run a search for: milestone:bible:Genesis–Malachi
    3. Use the up arrow button in the upper right corner of the inline search pane to send the results to a Passage List document
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    4. Do the same thing for the LES, but use the search: milestone:bible.lxx2:"gen-odes"
    5. In the first of the two created Passage List documents, open the Merge menu.
    6. Select the second created Passage List document
    7. Select the Symmetric Difference option on the right side.image

    This will create a new Passage List that contains all the verses that a different between the two lists. This gives more than strictly what you are looking for, since in some places the LES combines what in the ESV is two verses, but gives you something you can look through to consider the differences in versification. Consider in the final Passage List document choosing to display the results using both ESV and LES in order to make the differences more clear.

    You could also choose to start with the LES list and use the Difference option to remove all the the verses in the ESV to just see places where the LES has verses that the ESV does not.

    You might also want to limit the range of verses searched, since LES contains entire books that are not found in ESV, such as searching just Job. Note though that you need to make sure and use bible.lxx2 in the LES search, not bible like in ESV.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How do I create a Passage list that shows missing verses in the ESV versus the Septuagint canon? 

    Have you read L/V 10+ Tip of the Day #303 Verse mapping and Jeremiah materials - Logos Forums? The problem is much more than "missing verses" - there are verses with very different content as in the colophon of Job note vv 16-17:

    Then there is the problem with books not being divided in the same way e.g. Prayer of Manasseh being attached to 2 Chronicles or being an independent book; the Letter of Jeremiah being attached to Baruch or being and independent book ...

    And I've not even mentioned yet that the Septuagint has never had a fixed content across all churches that use it - intentionally. The need for a truly fixed text/canon arose out of the Reformation.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."