Problem using Advanced Timeline

I was watching and following along Scott Lindsey's webinar on the Advanced Timeline and found that I couldn't reproduce what he was doing - even though I have all of the Logos 10 features.

In this first image, Scott has selected 'Acts' in the left-hand pane.

However, 'Acts' isn't even showing for me when I try to do the same thing:

Now, I've tried to double check all of my settings in the timeline in case what I am viewing is restricted, but I can't see anything different than what Scott has.

Any suggestions?

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Ian Kirk

Same. I even posted in the chat (hoping for—but not expecting—an actual live presentation) that question. We are even missing the Gospels. I thought it was because I didn't have the resources he did (I think it was the Tyndale dictionary), but those just showed up as locked (which is fine). I'm hoping that he had an updated dataset that will be pushed out to us shortly.

It is a bad idea, though, to show such information in what is effectively a sales pitch. If I were a new Logos buyer and I couldn't get what he showed, I'd feel baited, kind of like I do now.

Ryland Brown

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1277418#Comment_1277418

Acts showed up for me. Sorry for the hassle!

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1277418#Comment_1277418

It is a bad idea, though, to show such information in what is effectively a sales pitch

I've not figured out 'Timeline' nor 'Advanced Timeline'. What is it supposed to do??

In today's example (Bible > Acts), I tried it out (with no other filters). I have a most of the Bible books, but most only refer to Jesus' resurrection. Maybe that's all that happened (joking).

But looking specifically at 1 Timothy it has a single event: Pontius Pilate. And indeed Pilate is in 1 Timothy. But clicking on the event references a resource I have absolutely no regard for. And no reference to .... 1 Timothy!. Then, going to 1 Timothy and the Pilate verse, sure enough, there's the event!

What's the point? Events show, don't show, who knows.

Ian Kirk

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1277421#Comment_1277421

This indicates an uncommunicated limitation to the timeline based upon library contents, or you received a dataset pushout before Jordan and I did (which is possible, not knowing how Logos pushes out updates).

I'd definitely like a definite reason.

Ryland: do you have all the New Testament books in your timeline, too?

Andrew Batishko

This might be related to which Bible is your preferred Bible. If this isn't working for you, can you tell me your preferred Bible?

Yasmin Stephen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1277432#Comment_1277432

I'm missing some books (9 in the NT; some as well in the OT but I didn't count them) but I do have the same NT books as Scott in the first screenshot the OP posted. (My preferred Bible is the ESV.)

Ian Kirk

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1277432#Comment_1277432

Yep, the translation was the issue. THAT was not intuitive. So, the timeline is fixed upon the translation. That isn't good, as the same timeline should apply to the NRSVue (my preferred) and the ESV (Scott's preferred).

I switched my preferred bible to ESV (from NRSVue) to test and the Advanced Timeline now matches Scott's. Hopefully, that will be fixed so that all translations are treated equally.

Other than the ESV, what translations are more on the completed side of things?

I did catch that the NRSVue did work with "Acts" when using the Luke-Acts under Common Division, which indicates to me that divisions and books are silos and not using some sort of commonality, which would seem to me to be more work.

Andrew Batishko

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1277437#Comment_1277437

Yep, the translation was the issue. THAT was not intuitive. So, the timeline is fixed upon the translation. That isn't good, as the same timeline should apply to the NRSVue (my preferred) and the ESV (Scott's preferred).

All of the timeline events are still there, there just isn't a Bible Book facet that allows you to filter the view to just those events.

This bug affects NRSVue, CSB, and possibly some other Bibles.

I've created a case to investigate and fix this bug.

Other than the ESV, what translations are more on the completed side of things?

Sorry, I don't have a good way to determine an answer to that. It's not a question of translations being complete as much as the application isn't properly handling some conversion between different verse mappings.

Jordan Litchfield

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1277445#Comment_1277445

This bug affects NRSVue, CSB, and possibly some other Bibles.

My preferred Bible is NRSVue as well, so that explains why Acts didn't show for me.

xnman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1277446#Comment_1277446

FYI - it seems to work with the NKJV. ---- You know.... the one the Apostles carried in the hip pocket of their Levis when they walked ... lol [8-|]

Edit: OOOPs.... Seems it works for Acts but not for some of the other N.T. books.... i.e. 1 Timothy, Colossians, Hebrews, 1 Peter, Revelation. Shucks.