MAJOR BUG: Missing data in RVI for The Cambridge Paragraph Bible: Of the Authorized English Version

MJ. Smith
MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

The Cambridge Paragraph Bible: Of the Authorized English Version. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1873.

The RVI appears at first glance to contain information only about verbs. See (Bug?) Missing Referent Tag person:God - Logos Forums which alerted me to the problem.

Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    You are comparing different verses in the screenshot. The tagging for Mk 11:26 would come from a TR Greek base (Scrivener 1881). ESV comments on that verse but other (non-TR) translations include the verse with its RI.

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  • Jimmy Parks
    Jimmy Parks Member, Logos Employee Posts: 113
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1283567#Comment_1283567

    We are looking into this. It will not be an easy problem to solve. as Dave pointed out, v26 is not present in SBLGNT which is the base for all of our person tagging in the NT. So adding entity tagging for verses that are only present in the Scrivener/KJV text type will take more infrastructure to ship. 

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,413 ✭✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1283616#Comment_1283616

    No offense to you, personally, Jimmy. 'Parks' always means good information.

    But this whole sequence 'looks' like amateur-hour with the 3 stooges. 'Oh, gee, Moe, majority texts have more verses! This is going to take some real work, Larry!'

    Obviously, it's not amateur hour ... I'm sure when they selected SBLGNT, and began plugging away, it was quite obvious in design ... and not communicated to customers.

    Disappointing.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1283616#Comment_1283616

    Excuse me. I didn't know not to believe Logos - you're saying the alignment is actually SBLGNT --> Scrivener --> CPB i.e. the deliberate insertion of error into the results with an "oh, well, it's good enough for who it's for" or a "they're so sloppy they'll never notice." Over the years Logos has been slowly eroding my confidence in their product and my respect for evangelical "scholarship". Over the last year, Logos has behaved as if they recognize they have a problem. Don't underestimate the size of that problem.

    No, I am not mad or angry, I am sad and disappointed - very disappointed that such and obvious error-producer shortcut got by any level of design.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Jimmy Parks
    Jimmy Parks Member, Logos Employee Posts: 113
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1283678#Comment_1283678

    No. The RVI, as it shows in the information panel, is aligned to Scrivener. The database that holds the Person tagging uses our base original language bibles (SBLGNT and LHB). 
    We have additional texts that are part of this database, but they are larger alternate texts. We have not (yet) incorporated all of the alternate readings that are used in the hundreds of bibles that we support into this database. 

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