Text Comparison does NOT change/track with linked Bible

Rick Ausdahl
Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

My goal is to have a Text Comparison tab that will follow/track with a linked Bible tab.  In this case, both tabs are set to linkset B.

Per the screen shots below, my Bible is at Matthew 26:6 and the active scripture reference shown at the top of the Text Comparison panel DOES change to reflect the active scripture reference of the Bible.  But the passage displayed in the Text Comparison does not change/move to stay in sync with the Bible and does not even match the Text Comparison's own active reference which is in sync with the Bible.

Is there a way to fix this?

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  • John Fidel
    John Fidel Member, MVP Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭

    Rick this was happening on the Mac version, but was fixed. Probably including info on your computer would be helpful.

  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭

    Rick this was happening on the Mac version, but was fixed. Probably including info on your computer would be helpful.

    Thanks John!  It's helpful to know it's not unique to my system.

    I'm running a Lenovo Legion, Windows 11, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13700HX, 16 GB RAM.

    Hopefully someone from Faithlife will weigh in.

  • John Fidel
    John Fidel Member, MVP Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭

    I will try later on my Mac to see if it is still fixed or not. I know it is frustrating.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,413 ✭✭✭

    I will try later on my Mac to see if it is still fixed or not. I know it is frustrating.

    Seems it works fine on my mac. For a long time, TC wouldn't lead right, so that works good also (along with the Bible leading the TC, including texts).

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • John Fidel
    John Fidel Member, MVP Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭

    I will try later on my Mac to see if it is still fixed or not. I know it is frustrating.

    Seems it works fine on my mac. For a long time, TC wouldn't lead right, so that works good also (along with the Bible leading the TC, including texts).

    Thanks DMB! So it appears to be a Win 11 issue. Anyone with a Win machine that can test it out?

  • Wolfgang Schneider
    Wolfgang Schneider Member Posts: 676 ✭✭

    Just tested on Win 10 & Logos 31.1 computer with ESV in Bible panel and a second panel with TC tool ... both linked via Link set B ... everything works correctly (just scrolling as well as jumping to reference in a different bible book, etc)
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    Wolfgang Schneider

    (BibelCenter)

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Logos Employee Posts: 5,362

    Rick, I played around with this a bunch, and I was able to encounter this problem just two or three times, but in each case, scrolling the Bible one more step resolved the problem in Text Comparison, and generally speaking this was a very rare occurence.

    Are you seeing this happen consistently, and does the problem go away (temporarily) when you scroll the Bible a little more?

    Are you scrolling in the Bible? Or using the navigation box? Or something else?

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭

    Rick, I played around with this a bunch, and I was able to encounter this problem just two or three times, but in each case, scrolling the Bible one more step resolved the problem in Text Comparison, and generally speaking this was a very rare occurence.

    Are you seeing this happen consistently, and does the problem go away (temporarily) when you scroll the Bible a little more?

    Are you scrolling in the Bible? Or using the navigation box? Or something else?

    Thanks for your help Andrew.  I'll play with it and see if I can give more specifics.  I'm booked in family gatherings this weekend, so I may not be able to check it out before Monday.  What I can say without further testing, is that I've tried a variety of things including scrolling in the Bible, scrolling in the Text Comparison tab, and physically entering passage numbers in both the Bible and text comparison panels.  Occasionally the text comparison tab would suddenly jump to the right passage, but not often... and I haven't yet determined a pattern.

    More info to come.

  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭

    Rick, I played around with this a bunch, and I was able to encounter this problem just two or three times, but in each case, scrolling the Bible one more step resolved the problem in Text Comparison, and generally speaking this was a very rare occurence.

    Are you seeing this happen consistently, and does the problem go away (temporarily) when you scroll the Bible a little more?

    Are you scrolling in the Bible? Or using the navigation box? Or something else?

    Andrew, I was able to get two tests in tonight before having to tend to family business.  These two tests were done using a Lenovo LOQ rather than the Lenovo Legion being used at the time of my original post.

    TEST 1:  Scrolling the Bible using the Scroll Wheel on my Mouse

    Started with Bible and Text Comparison on Matt 26:7

    Scrolled the Bible through Matt 26:45 with the reference at the top of the TC changing each time to match the Bible, but the displayed text remaining at Matt 26:7.

    When I hit Matt 26:46 in the Bible, the reference at the top of the TC tab was accurately synced with the Bible as usual, AND the verse displayed in the TC tab finally changed.  BUT… the text still didn’t match the Bible and the active reference at the top of the TC tab— TC was displaying the text of Matt 26:41 instead of Matt 26:46.

    I scrolled the Bible back to Matt 26:7 and checked TC.  The reference at the to of the TC tab correctly showed Matt 26:7, but the text displayed was Matt 26:15.

    I scrolled both the Bible and TC back to Matt 26:7 to start the next test.

     

    TEST 2:  Scrolling the Bible using the Down-Arrow on the Locator Bar (Down-Arrow set to “Verse”)

    With Both the Bible and TC back at Matt 26:7, I started using the down-arrow on the Locator to scroll one verse at a time through the Bible.  The reference at the top of the TC tab again showed the correct passage but the text itself was not moving/scrolling.  I started varying the number of verses scrolled with the locator’s down-arrow before checking the TC tab.  Each time, the reference at the top of the tab showed the correct reference, but the text was still at Matt 26:7.

    When I reached Matt 26:27 in the Bible, the reference at the top of the TC tab showed the correct reference as usual, AND this time the actual text had changed… But again, it was not displaying the correct passage—it was displaying Matt 26:23 instead of Matt 26:27.

  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭

    Just tested on Win 10 & Logos 31.1 computer with ESV in Bible panel and a second panel with TC tool ... both linked via Link set B ... everything works correctly (just scrolling as well as jumping to reference in a different bible book, etc)
    image

    Thank you for checking.  [:)]

    Glad it's working on your Windows install.  I'm not sure which version of Windows Andrew is using--or if that's even a factor that's playing a role--but the more feedback the better.

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭

    Windows 11, Lenovo laptop, and I have all the latest updates... Text Comparison follows my bible... I tried with link A and then set up link B and it still works. 

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭

    Rick, I played around with this a bunch, and I was able to encounter this problem just two or three times, but in each case, scrolling the Bible one more step resolved the problem in Text Comparison, and generally speaking this was a very rare occurence.

    Are you seeing this happen consistently, and does the problem go away (temporarily) when you scroll the Bible a little more?

    Are you scrolling in the Bible? Or using the navigation box? Or something else?

    Andrew, I think I found the culprit.  [:)]

    The TC stays in sync with the Bible IF the TC tab is in a separate panel from the Bible tab AND it's the active tab in that panel.  If the layout meets that criteria, TC marches in step with the Bible regardless of how I navigate through the Bible.  But if I deviate from that layout criteria, and TC is not the active tab in a panel as I scroll through the Bible, the actual TC text loses sync with the Bible, even though the scripture reference at the top of the TC tab stays in sync with the Bible.

    Now, off to a family celebration.  [^]

  • John Fidel
    John Fidel Member, MVP Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭
  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭

    Windows 11, Lenovo laptop, and I have all the latest updates... Text Comparison follows my bible... I tried with link A and then set up link B and it still works. 

    Thanks for checking xnman!  I think I found the problem and intuition tells me it should be a fairly easy fix.

    On a different not, I love your profile photo.  Barney Fife is right at the top of my list of favorite entertainment characters.  [;)]

  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭

    Rick, glad you figured it out.

    Thanks, John!  I really appreciate your help!
  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Logos Employee Posts: 5,362

    The TC stays in sync with the Bible IF the TC tab is in a separate panel from the Bible tab AND it's the active tab in that panel.  If the layout meets that criteria, TC marches in step with the Bible regardless of how I navigate through the Bible.  But if I deviate from that layout criteria, and TC is not the active tab in a panel as I scroll through the Bible, the actual TC text loses sync with the Bible, even though the scripture reference at the top of the TC tab stays in sync with the Bible.

    Thanks for the follow up. I can consistently recreate the problem now. I've created a case to get this fixed.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭

    The TC stays in sync with the Bible IF the TC tab is in a separate panel from the Bible tab AND it's the active tab in that panel.  If the layout meets that criteria, TC marches in step with the Bible regardless of how I navigate through the Bible.  But if I deviate from that layout criteria, and TC is not the active tab in a panel as I scroll through the Bible, the actual TC text loses sync with the Bible, even though the scripture reference at the top of the TC tab stays in sync with the Bible.

    Thanks for the follow up. I can consistently recreate the problem now. I've created a case to get this fixed.

    Thank you, Andrew!  I look forward to using it again when the fix is implemented.