Jesus replaces or fulfills temple

Christian Alexander
Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

I am looking at how Jesus replaces or fulfills the Temple. I did a Greek Word Study on both terms and have read some work on the subject. Alan Kerr, The Temple of Jesus’ Body: The Temple Theme in the Gospel of John (JSNTSup 220; Sheffield: Sheffield University Press, 2002). page, 131. Kerr admits that it is “an open question” whether Jesus replaces or fulfills the Temple, “Replacement carries with it the idea that there has been a radical disjunction. Onething has been removed and another put in its place. This is in effect what happened with the Temple…. On the other hand, John speaks of the scriptures finding fulfillment in Jesus…. I think it depends on emphasis. Where John wants to stress the radicality of the new beginning in the Word made flesh, replacement is the better word. However, where the accent falls on the outworking of the purpose of the Torah, fulfillment is the better word” (133 n. 80) I am looking to how this has been developed. How can I use Logos to determine this? 

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,066 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would start simply by reading both sides of the fulfillment/replacement debate:

    Replacement (I think):

    • Martin Luther
    • John Calvin
    • Justin Martyr
    • Tertullian

    Fulfillment (I'm a bit more sure):

    • Thomas Aquinas
    • Karl Barth
    • N.T. Wright
    • Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel

    Forumites more theology oriented are encouraged to correct me and to expand on my lists.

    Then also check out the Lexham Survey of Theology: The Church and Israel and the reading list attached to the article.

    And run a Topic Guide on The Church and Israel

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  • Allen Browne
    Allen Browne Member Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭

    Recommended:

    G. K. Beale. The Temple and the Church’s Mission: A Biblical Theology of the Dwelling Place of God. New Studies in Biblical Theology, (IVP; Apollos, 2004)

    Nicholas Perrin. Jesus the Temple (Baker Academic; SPCK, 2010)

  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,242 ✭✭✭

    How can I use Logos to determine this? 

    1. search Hebrews (after the Gospels) for usage of temple/tabernacle.

    2. Use Word Study to research root of "dwelt" in John 1:14

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  • Milkman
    Milkman Member Posts: 4,716 ✭✭✭

    "The resource you are looking for has been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable."

    This is what I got when I clicked the link to Perrin's "Jesus the Temple." However, when I searched the Logos site, it came up with the book and title. 

    mm. 

    Recommended:

    G. K. Beale. The Temple and the Church’s Mission: A Biblical Theology of the Dwelling Place of God. New Studies in Biblical Theology, (IVP; Apollos, 2004)

    Nicholas Perrin. Jesus the Temple (Baker Academic; SPCK, 2010)

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,413 ✭✭✭

    "The resource you are looking for has been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable."

    This is what I got when I clicked the link to Perrin's "Jesus the Temple." However, when I searched the Logos site, it came up with the book and title. 

    That is really odd. The address is a Logos.com product page, but the link execution is a forum page, trying to load a resource!

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  • Kevin Clemens
    Kevin Clemens Member Posts: 353 ✭✭✭

    Unfortunately not in Logos, but if you are interested in a recent and very robust discussion of Jesus and the Temple in the synoptics, this work is fantastic:

    Michael Patrick Barber, The Historical Jesus and the Temple: Memory, Methodology, and the Gospel of Matthew (Cambridge, 2023)

    Google Books preview here

    Publisher description:

    In this book, Michael Patrick Barber examines the role of the Jerusalem temple in the teaching of the historical Jesus. Drawing on recent discussions about methodology and memory research in Jesus studies, he advances a fresh approach to reconstructing Jesus' teaching. Barber argues that Jesus did not reject the temple's validity but that he likely participated in and endorsed its rites. Moreover, he locates Jesus' teaching within Jewish apocalyptic eschatology, showing that Jesus' message about the coming kingdom and his disciples' place in it likely involved important temple and priestly traditions that have been ignored by the quest. Barber also highlights new developments in scholarship on the Gospel of Matthew to show that its Jewish perspective offers valuable but overlooked clues about the kinds of concerns that would have likely shaped Jesus' outlook. A bold approach to a key topic in biblical studies, Barber's book is a pioneering contribution to Jesus scholarship. 

  • Allen Browne
    Allen Browne Member Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭

    "The resource you are looking for has been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable." ...

    Nicholas Perrin. Jesus the Temple (Baker Academic; SPCK, 2010)

    Hopefully this works:

    https://www.logos.com/product/23762/jesus-the-temple