FACKBOOK DATA ERROR? What criteria was used to identify people tagged Proto-Protestant?

MJ. Smith
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edited November 21 in English Forum

What is the criteria for being tagged as Proto-Protestant? I'm finding thoroughly Orthodox Dominican friars tagged as Proto-Protestant.

Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,447

    bumping in order to get a response

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Jimmy Parks
    Jimmy Parks Member, Logos Employee Posts: 113

    Can you provide some more context for this? What are you looking at specifically?

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,447

    Can you provide some more context for this? What are you looking at specifically?

    In Factbook, look at the record for Proto-Protestantism in the Authors section. What criteria was used to identify these people? Most of them seem to be misidentified. The "garbage" identification then appears on the individual person's record.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Jimmy Parks
    Jimmy Parks Member, Logos Employee Posts: 113

    Thank you for pointing this out. I'm not sure how this grouping was assembled. I'll look into it some more. I see Francis of Assisi which is an obvious error. Do you have specific people that should be re-aligned? 

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,447

    Unfortunately, it is almost all of them - Angela of Foligno, Anselm of Canterbury, Bernard of Clairvaux, Bonaventure (a doctor of the church no less), Bridget of Sweden, Catherine of Genoa, Claire of Assisi ... there are a few I'd have to check on. It's easier to say that the list Wikipedia provides is a bit broader than I would list but I can make sense out of why they included them.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    In Factbook, look at the record for Proto-Protestantism in the Authors section.

    Hmm, I don't have a Proto-Protestantism record in my Factbook. Is that a Verbum only record?

    I have an entry for Crypto-Protestantism, but it has diddly-squat in it.

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Administrator, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,395

    Hmm, I don't have a Proto-Protestantism record in my Factbook. Is that a Verbum only record?

    Try just typing "proto".

    I can't wait until we can get some improvements made to Factbook autocomplete...

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Christopher Esget
    Christopher Esget Member Posts: 50

    MJ. Smith said:

    Unfortunately, it is almost all of them - Angela of Foligno, Anselm of Canterbury, Bernard of Clairvaux, Bonaventure (a doctor of the church no less), Bridget of Sweden, Catherine of Genoa, Claire of Assisi ... there are a few I'd have to check on. It's easier to say that the list Wikipedia provides is a bit broader than I would list but I can make sense out of why they included them.

    I came across this just the other day regarding Bernard of Clairvaux. I didn't look into it further, but I know he was a significant influence on Luther, and I assumed that was the reason (nevertheless it bothered me). It's not a good term. 

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