TDNT References

Christian Alexander
Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

Clicking on TDNT reference entry numbers in the Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains: Greek New Testament by James A. Swanson takes you to the reference instead of TDNT.  In the mouseover preview, I can see it. When clicked, it will not open correctly. Any suggestions on how to resolve this issue? I'm not sure how resources should be or can prioritized, so that could be the problem.  I know priority is just one above the other, much like a ladder. How does prioritization work in the form of lexical resources? I think that the issue is how the ladder works within form of lexicons. I have never prioritized anything in Logos Bible Software.

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  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,242 ✭✭✭

    Any suggestions on how to resolve this issue? I'm not sure how resources should be or can prioritized, so that could be the problem. 

    Here is my prioritization scheme and it works for me in both mouse-over and click

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did you read Help on prioritization? Did you look in the Logos training for web pages or videos on prioritization? Check all three of the top entries in the application menu (3 dots on the main tool bar - far right/bottom). It covers both items I mentioned.

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    Clicking on TDNT reference entry numbers in the Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains: Greek New Testament by James A. Swanson takes you to the reference instead of TDNT.

    Look for the lexicons in the Prioritization list given by David Thomas. The Advanced Prioritization for DBL Greek solves your problem, but do you understand why?  Which is David's preferred lexicon for Greek?

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    No I do not understand why.

    Did you read the first two paragraphs at https://wiki.logos.com/Prioritizing#Advanced_Prioritization ?

    If you restrict a lexicon to Greek it will only be used for Greek lemmas....try it and see.

    What is David's preferred Greek lexicon?

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  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭

    Did you read the first two paragraphs at https://wiki.logos.com/Prioritizing#Advanced_Prioritization ?

    Yes. 

    If you restrict a lexicon to Greek it will only be used for Greek lemmas....try it and see.

    What is David's preferred Greek lexicon?

    That did seem to work. I did not understand at first. David's preferred Greek lexicon is BDAG as far as I can see. 

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    If you restrict a lexicon to Greek it will only be used for Greek lemmas....try it and see.

    What is David's preferred Greek lexicon?

    That did seem to work. I did not understand at first. David's preferred Greek lexicon is BDAG as far as I can see. 

    It should solve your immediate issue, and I agree that BDAG is the preferred Greek lexicon. Also, he seems to suggest that BDAG is not "stealing" TDNT references. If it was, what would be the solution?

    I note that David prioritized TDNT above DBL Greek, and that would have solved the problem by itself as DBL Greek is in no position to "steal" TDNT references. By using Advanced Prioritiation for DBL Greek, it is possible for TDNT to be prioritized anywhere you want it (especially if you wanted DBL Greek to be positioned higher than TDNT for Greek lemmas).

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  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭

    I think the reason BDAG is not stealing TDNT references is due to the structure of priority. I am not sure though. I do not own BDAG. I like to view TDNT, Louw and Nida and then Liddell and Scott Greek–English Lexicon (LSJ). I am not sure how this helps answer your question. I like the usage of Advanced Prioritiation. I had never used that before.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    I think the reason BDAG is not stealing TDNT references is due to the structure of priority. I am not sure though. I do not own BDAG

    Your reasoning is incorrect as BDAG is positioned higher than TDNT. But my question was hypothetical. IF BDAG is stealing TDNT references, what would you do to prevent it?

    I like to view TDNT, Louw and Nida and then Liddell and Scott Greek–English Lexicon (LSJ). I am not sure how this helps answer your question.

    My question relates to David Thomas' prioritization, not yours. But do you prioritize the above like:

    • TDNT
    • Louw-Nida
    • LSJ

    and where/how do you  prioritize DBL Greek?

    Dave
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