New Feature: Dynamic Resource Toolbar
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We appreciate your feedback, Robert. This new design is primarily aimed toward new users. We wanted to create a toolbar that everyone could understand and use almost immediately (without having to spend significant time learning). We recognize that this may disrupt the studying of our advanced users for some time, but we hope that this will also be an improvement to you all as you become more familiar with it.
That being said, we released this toolbar to the web app first so that we could hear valuable feedback like yours, before bringing it to the desktop app. Thank you!
Ali Pope | Logos Desktop and Mobile Program Manager
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I use the online, not downloaded, version on my PC. For some reason, when I type in something like "Prov 31" and hit "enter", it does not take me to that place in the Bible anymore.
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Hi Dustin - and welcome to the forums
Dustin Gaskins said:I use the online, not downloaded, version on my PC. For some reason, when I type in something like "Prov 31" and hit "enter", it does not take me to that place in the Bible anymore.
I see the same thing - but I suggest you start a new thread in this forum to explore this further. It might get lost in this thread - and it may not be related to the changes to the toolbar (it might but we don't know!)
Graham
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Thanks for the suggestion. It has begun to work now as well. Perhaps a temporary bug.
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Graham Criddle said:
In the web app toolbar the Corresponding words option is under the Reformat menu
Graham Criddle said:In the current beta of 34.0 on desktop, this option appears under Emphasize. Shouldn't these be consistent?
Desktop has many more visual filters than the web app. So all the web app filters are put under Reformat, whereas on desktop we break them down into multiple categories.
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I love this new toolbar. It is a very simple format to use and I appreciate the streamlining of these tools.
Thank you.
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What is the default font? I tried to change it in settings but couldn't find it.
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Anyone?
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Bump
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John Brumett said:
What is the default font? I tried to change it in settings but couldn't find it.
It appears to me that the web app does not provide the option to change font. I do not know what the default font is for the web app, but I would guess that whatever it is, we're stuck with it.
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No, the Logos page doesn't have that option. Fwiw, I have observed that there are two things going on. If you change your browser to 'Use system font for webpages' (web app and beta) all the sans serif fonts in Logos will change to that—in my case SamsungOne—but the browser setting has no effect on the serif font in your resources*. I'm on an older Samsung Android tablet.
* I now see the serif font in Factbook changes with the system font.
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I like to send hyperlinks to a different Bible. I don't see that option. But I do like everything so far.
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I'm reading a book from my library and I cannot find the shortcut to get me back to my index of the book I am reading.
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Roy McDaniel said:
I'm reading a book from my library and I cannot find the shortcut to get me back to my index of the book I am reading.
Hi Roy. Welcome to the forums.
I'm not sure what you mean by index, but you can navigate the book using the Contents button...
Does that help?
To be clear, this is in the new-look web app at https://app.logos.com/
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this is what i see now.
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I really like the new minimalisation of the tools.
I am a very new user of Logos, and have been frustrated by the way the bars, popups and the like seem to overwhelm the text when a few panes are open.The new Insights looks to be an advantage to someone like me who is new to Logos and doesn't know how to find the way around all of those "Tool" sets and Guides.
I was pondering what to do about the subscrition service, but would be more inclined for this much cleaner look.
Good Design is always in Style.
David
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I really like the new minimalisation of the tools.
I am a very new user of Logos, and have been frustrated by the way the bars, popups and the like seem to overwhelm the text when a few panes are open.The new Insights looks to be an advantage to someone like me who is new to Logos and doesn't know how to find the way around all of those "Tool" sets and Guides.
I was pondering what to do about the subscrition service, but would be more inclined for this much cleaner look.
Good Design is always in Style.
David
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Two things
I can't seem to find Docs Perhaps it never was on Web App?
and when I opened up a Passage guide, it responded in Spanish. So now I have to learn yet another language. :-)
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Super!
Und wenn ich alle meine Habe zur Speisung ⟨der Armen⟩ austeile und wenn ich meinen Leib hingebe, damit ich Ruhm gewinne, aber keine Liebe habe, so nützt es mir nichts. 4 Die Liebe ist langmütig, die Liebe ist gütig, sie neidet nicht, die Liebe tut nicht groß, sie bläht sich nicht auf, 5 sie benimmt sich nicht unanständig, sie sucht nicht das Ihre, sie lässt sich nicht erbittern, sie rechnet Böses nicht zu, 6 sie freut sich nicht über die Ungerechtigkeit; sondern sie freut sich mit der Wahrheit, 7 sie erträgt alles, sie glaubt alles, sie hofft alles, sie erduldet alles. 8 Die Liebe vergeht niemals; seien es aber Weissagungen, sie werden weggetan werden; seien es Sprachen, sie werden aufhören; sei es Erkenntnis, sie wird weggetan werden. 9 Denn wir erkennen stückweise, und wir weissagen stückweise; 10 wenn aber das Vollkommene kommt, wird das, was stückweise ist, weggetan werden. 11 Als ich ein Kind war, redete ich wie ein Kind, dachte wie ein Kind, urteilte wie ein Kind; als ich ein Mann wurde, tat ich weg, was kindlich war. 12 Denn wir sehen jetzt mittels eines Spiegels undeutlich, dann aber von Angesicht zu Angesicht. Jetzt erkenne ich stückweise, dann aber werde ich erkennen, wie auch ich erkannt worden bin. 13 Nun aber bleibt Glaube, Hoffnung, Liebe, diese drei; die Größte aber von diesen ist die Liebe.we frequently use this- perfect new rollout tool.
Lokks like that in our office and for our students.
Great
Thanks indeed!
Elberfelder Bibel, SCM R. Brockhaus; Christliche Verlagsgesellschaft, Witten; Dillenburg 2016, 1. Kor 13,3–13.0 -
Mark, hello watching one of the New Early Access Logos with you and the other young man showing some of the new features in Logos "early access". This does not have a lot to do with what you taught, but I've reached out to Logos Team and instructor Shawn Grubb - on the Reading Plan, can we get a "Bi-weekly" option for any day of the week for reading or teaching in my case. I do a little reading and teaching every other Friday of the month. However, there's no way for me to print out a nice plan for the brothers at my church to follow. Can we get that option in Logos Reading Plan?
Benjamin[:D]
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Robert Kelbe said:Ali Pope said:
After gathering feedback and brainstorming ways to enhance user experience, we’re confident that this update will make navigating your books much easier than before. Our primary goal was to make the toolbar more intuitive, ensuring that every feature is easily accessible and understandable.
Here’s what you can expect from our revamped toolbar:
- Simplicity at its Best: We’ve simplified the layout and removed any clutter, so you can focus on what matters most - reading your books efficiently.
- Clear Visual Cues: Each button is carefully designed to represent its function, making it easier than ever to find the tool you need.
- Streamlined Navigation: Say goodbye to endless menus and submenus! With our new toolbar, everything you need is just a click away.
We’re committed to continuously improving your experience with our app.
Thank you for asking for feedback!
This might not be fair but my first thought was "Oh no... what have they done now?" I preferred the old selection menu to the new insights menu, and I prefer the old resource toolbar to the new one. I would have preferred to focus on better tab behavior, an often-requested feature, rather than changing something that wasn't broken.
Personally, I struggle to see how this makes "navigating your books much easier than before". Like the new insights selection menu on mobile, it just adds one layer of menus to get to what I need. I used to just click on the visual filter icon. Now I need to click on the "View" ribbon, then Visual filters? How is that saying "goodbye" to endless menus and submenus? I really don't understand the benefit... It seems like a major loss of efficiency. I am genuinely curious, if someone wants to explain where it actually is more efficient.
Second, you say "We’ve simplified the layout and removed any clutter, so you can focus on what matters most - reading your books efficiently." Screen real estate is a precious commodity. As I see it, rather than allowing us to focus on our resources, you have increased the amount of space the resource bar takes up - not just one place, but in every pane! (I know you can collapse it, but that defeats the purpose of making them accessible, and you have to manually do it each time?). This is probably my main complaint.
Third, you say, "Clear Visual Cues: Each button is carefully designed to represent its function, making it easier than ever to find the tool you need." I don't notice many differences in the icons, but I notice that each icon also has a label. This might appeal to the new user who has never used a particular button, but as soon as they have used it once they will know what it is, especially if each carefully designed. I'm happy they collapse to the icon when the pane is narrow, but still, the words are not visually appealing, especially as they show up on every pane, reminding me of how much space the new double-row resource menu is taking up.
I like the way the parallel resources copies the Mobile version. In general, I think the Mobile version has some much more intuitive aspects to it and I'm happy to see the Mobile version influencing the Desktop version. The rest of it I really don't like...
One way you could make it significantly better is to move "Contents" to the locator toolbar, similar to Mobile. This would minimize the amount of switching I would have to do between submenus.
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Thanks a lot for your efforts !
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Could you explain more please how you have managed it to show up like this?
Blessings in Christ.
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Tes said:
Could you explain more please how you have managed it to show up like this?
I don't understand what you are asking Tes, please clarify.
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David Jenkins said:
I can't seem to find Docs Perhaps it never was on Web App?
Tap on the 9 dots in the shape of a square, then tap on Documents. See screenshot below for details.
David Jenkins said:and when I opened up a Passage guide, it responded in Spanish.
Please check the language in your Settings. To do this:
1. Click on the three vertical dots in the bottom left corner.
2. Click on Settings.
3. Look at the Language dropdown.
Ali Pope | Logos Desktop and Mobile Program Manager
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Robert Kelbe said:
One way you could make it significantly better is to move "Contents" to the locator toolbar, similar to Mobile. This would minimize the amount of switching I would have to do between submenus.
This is what I have mentioned.
Blessings in Christ.
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Tes said:Robert Kelbe said:
One way you could make it significantly better is to move "Contents" to the locator toolbar, similar to Mobile. This would minimize the amount of switching I would have to do between submenus.
This is what I have mentioned.
That's how it appears on the web app - are you not seeing that?
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I really like the dynamic resource toolbar and look forward to it being incorporated into the desktop app. One issue I have with the current desktop toolbar is that if the pane gets too narrow, it does not wrap the icons and allow access to them. The one that goes first is the parallel books icon where I can select similar resources. I like the way the new toolbar allows access as the pane narrows.
I keep the main toolbar in the desktop at the top as a result of losing icons in the resource pane one I get to three panes plus the information window.
Keep up the good work.
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Hi,
I am a student at Liberty University and I love Logos. I would like to request a "quick action" button that takes you from the web base app.logos.com to your computer's Logos App and opens the book in your App, instead of the website. At this time, Liberty University links all their books in Logos to go to the website app.logos.com. From there, we had to manually open our computer app and look for the page. A "quick action" button to open the Logos App's book page would be nice.
Thank you,
Alex
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How do you turn on page #s?? It is difficult to cite a specific location if it is just organized topically.
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Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I was pleasantly surprised when I opened the app on the web after some time. I normally use the desktop version either on my Mac or Windows platforms, but happened to be using a Surface Pro X that has Windows on ARM that does not play nice at all with the desktop version of Windows, which meant I went to the web app. I had to do a double-take, but it really fell right into place with the typical menu bars found, say, in the Microsoft Office Suite of programs, particularly the View, Tools, etc., options. I find it to be a bit more user friendly. Standardization is most useful across apps/programs, so I appreciate it.
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I, for one, LOVE CHANGE and I'm particularly encouraged that time and effort is constantly being put into the web app to make it more usable and functional. Obviously you can't please all the people all the time but I think it's great. Well done!!
Pastor Paul
Pastor Paul LeBoutillier
Calvary Chapel Ontario
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Pastor Paul
It would be a good idea to remove the personal details from your post as it is an open invitation for 'bots' to harvest your details and fill your inbox with spam.
I have tried to convert the bots but find them unresponsive even to the best of my sermons.
tootle pip
Mike
Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
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I just logged on to use the web app for the first time in a while and am really impressed with the dynamic toolbar. It works well and has quick access to my most used features, but I especially like the "Insights" button for quick access to other relevant resources without having to search or have them up already.
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I am enjoying this new view. Its great. The insights are very helpful.
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There are many books in Logos that have Greek or Hebrew words or phrases of text in them without a corresponding English translation next to it. I was reading a section of such a book and came across some greek text, not knowing Greek, I wanted to know what it translated to in English. I have also found not always do these words come up in an interlinear Bible.
I know I can copy and paste the word into the Go Box and set my search to Books and to Type Lexicons", but I thought surely there is an easier way to do this, especially if the idea is aimed at a novice or beginner user, and one who can't read Greek or Hebrew.
I tried Translate. Seems logical to me. Translate does not translate Greek or Hebrew, which seem odd, but what do I know.
A left click on the word opens a context menu that has no lemma info or lexicons available like the desktop app
I tried the Quick Actions on the Side Bar menu and selected Add a Dictionary but of course there is no choosing there so I can't pick a lexicon, only a dictionary opens.
What I would like is the web app or dynamic resource toolbar to have some easy way of accessing what I'm trying to accomplish here. My vote would be for the ability to left click and access it in the context menu as it is in the desktop app if possible.
Too soon old. Too late smart.
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Hi Bill,
In the web app if you have a analytical lexicon of which there are a few, you can double click on the Greek word and then select lookup and it will open the analytical text to the appropriate place.
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John Fidel said:
In the web app if you have a analytical lexicon of which there are a few, you can double click on the Greek word and then select lookup and it will open the analytical text to the appropriate place.
Oh Boy, I looked at everything but that[:$] Thanks John, I should have called you first[:D]
Too soon old. Too late smart.
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Glad to help
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How do I easily navigate to the next search result in the search bar?
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Hi Ali,
Thank you to the Logos team for the improvements; much appreciated! Please keep up the great work.
Kind regards,
~ Jeff
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Ric Fritz said:
How do I easily navigate to the next search result in the search bar?
Welcome to the forums. The dynamic resource toolbar's inline search only shows extracts. It does not have special navigation.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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And now I can not find the Highlighting tool in the Tool Tab?
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Lonnie Liston said:
And now I can not find the Highlighting tool in the Tool Tab?
The highlighting tool has never been available on the web app, although you can still highlight text by selecting it. More highlighting functionality is on the Notes tab.
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Helo Could you put Andew Murray's devotionals in the devotional grid so it would be easier to find the book.Andrew Murray Devotional0
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Welcome to the forums. At the moment only devotionals with calendar dates attached can be use as devotionals where you want them. I'll look into making a suggestion that this be changed - a bit. It is better to start a new thread when you have a separate topic as tagging onto a different thread often results in not getting a response. See Please expand calendar devotional to included undated daily devotionals | Logos
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Hi, who am I speaking g to. Now I have disabilities in reading and writing, so I like to highlight and put it in Words, but you will not. I need my
assignment read to me HELP!! Thank you, God Bless, Sincerely, Harley Coyne L31883383 harlcoy@outlook.com
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I hate this. I can't find page numbers and everything I took the time to learn is just not available any more? This is really frustrating and too time consuming for online grad students already pressed for time
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Harley K. Coyne said:
Hi, who am I speaking g to. Now I have disabilities in reading and writing, so I like to highlight and put it in Words, but you will not. I need my
assignment read to me HELP!! Thank you, God Bless, Sincerely, Harley Coyne L31883383 harlcoy@outlook.com
Bump!
Blessings in Christ.
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