Please recommend a tablet pc for LOGOS

I do most of my study on my couch after work and am currently using an iPad Pro which works well but lacks all of the features of the desktop app. I’m looking to purchase a tablet pc so I can stay comfortable while studying.

my research here and elsewhere has resulted in mixed recite reviews as to which tablets work well with logos. Does anyone here use it on a tablet? please share your experiences, and thank you

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danwdoo

I have a Surface Pro 7+ (Win11, i7, 32GB) and the logos experience is quite good--especially as a desktop device. I usually use it with a mouse on the couch (Logitech MX) and it works very well. As a casual touch experience, it has gotten a lot better, though I suspect that is more due to Microsoft updates to .NET more than intentional changes on Logos part (though please someone correct me if I am wrong). So what is the current desktop app touch experience like:

Scrolling of various resources works very well (something that was inconsistent the past)
Tapping/holding on a word/verse also works well and opens whatever resource is set to that tap/press type
Moving single tabs works quite well.
Pen actually highlights text very well now. Highlighting a verse brings up the highlight menu as expected allowing an easy highlighting experience.
Using the pen button brings up the full right click menu and items works as expected.

Challenges:

You will always eventually run into small touch-unfriendly aspects of the interface. A great example is a Bible reference. The mobile app has a simple verse picker function. The desktop does not (table of contents is anything but simple with touch only!) So if you want to change Bible reference, you have to tap it twice and then just the touch keyboard appears for you to manually enter a reference. Doable, but not efficient.
Weird behaviors such as I opened the Atlas by touch but could not close it by tapping the 'X' on the tool. It just would not register so I had to use my mouse.
Pinch and zoom does not work in many tools that would be expected nice, such as the timeline.
Battery life is poor. 4-6 hours is about it. (Very excited to see the new ARM version likely being announced this week. Will be curious how Logos runs on it).

Overall the touch experience really isn't bad now, and with a little intentional effort, I think Logos could make it great. For now I still prefer a mouse, but that may change with just a few more focused updates.

Mike Binks

Does anyone here use it on a tablet? please share your experiences, and thank you

Not a tablet. But have you considered a MacBook Air? It would gel well with your iPad.

Bill Anderson

A Surface Pro is your best bet if you must run the full desktop app.

My experience with that is mixed. It works well if you run Logos with the keyboard. If you think you can use the pen or touch input, you will be disappointed.

Justin Gatlin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298614#Comment_1298614

Lenovo is running a big sale on their Yoga line this week, which is are convertible into tablets and run full Windows. They are a similar solution to a Surface Pro, but with a much better keyboard (in my opinion). I have played with other people's Surface Pros and could not imagine typing anything long form. But the Lenovo keyboard is very good.

David Thomas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298644#Comment_1298644

A Surface Pro is your best bet if you must run the full desktop app.

My experience with that is mixed. It works well if you run Logos with the keyboard. If you think you can use the pen or touch input, you will be disappointed.

I second Bill's review (I'm currently on my 3rd Surface Pro [v.1,4,7]) With the upcoming release of SP10 for home, Microsoft website and Best Buy are offering deep discounts on SP9. If you don't need the AI key on the SP10 the 9 will serve you well for several years.

Mark G

Thanks everyone,

and thank you for the heads up on the yoga sale, I’ll look into them as a full sized keyboard would be nice. I’ve gotten used to the Apple Pencil so I’m gravitating towards the surface and am pleased to know that most of the bugs were worked out. I’m leaning towards an Intel based sp, rumor has it that todays announcement for the sp 10 will only be arm based processors and until we know how emulation performs on those it’s a really expensive experiment.

thanks again! when all is said and done (God willing) I’ll return and post a follow up for future searchers.

Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298677#Comment_1298677

New surface pro machines are being unveiled today. I am very pleased with the surface pro. But I do use the mouse with it more than the pen.

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298678#Comment_1298678

My HP Spectre has served fabulously--if it counts as a tablet-PC. I am on my second one after my wife baptized the first one in Coke.

David Thomas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298677#Comment_1298677

Bradley advised in another thread to read and vote here: https://feedback.logos.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/native-support-for-windows-on-arm

Mark G

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298678#Comment_1298678

man, the new surface pros look nice. I might end up pre ordering. Anyone have experience with arm emulation of logos?

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298747#Comment_1298747

man, the new surface pros look nice. I might end up pre ordering. Anyone have experience with arm emulation of logos?

All Apple machines are Arm based and they don't run an emulation; they run native code very quickly.

David Thomas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298747#Comment_1298747

the new surface pros

Until Logos releases a native ARM for Windows App, I would be sticking with the Surface Pro 10 for Business (intel), rather than the Surface Pro AI+ 11 (Snapdragon). The extra $800 to get 1 TB and i7 is worth it (to me) to have a smooth Logos experience.

Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298747#Comment_1298747

man, the new surface pros look nice. I might end up pre ordering. Anyone have experience with arm emulation of logos?

It does look nice. But I don't recommend it until Logos informs us that Logos will work with ARM. If you need a machine now, I would recommend Surface Pro 10 business.