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  • John
    John Member Posts: 683 ✭✭✭
    edited January 13

    You would need printer drivers written for ARM. Drivers cannot run in emulation mode. Unless it’s a really old unsupported device, I would be surprised if they were not available yet.

    https://global.sharp/products/copier/info/info_arm-windows_2024-09.html

  • Rob Kuefner
    Rob Kuefner Member Posts: 164 ✭✭

    John

    It's a copier which we leased two years ago, and I check Sharp website all the time. Oddly, I can get the scanner to be recognized but not the printer when it comes to installing through Add a printer in Windows. It does install the scanner driver. The Sharp MFP software for the copier will download and go through the install process. It will identify that I have Windows 11 and then it pops up that it is an unsupported OS. There are no ARM compatible drivers that I have been able to locate and I put the local Sharp tech support through the ringer trying to help me. Honestly, I think I knew more than they did at the time. As noted, I can print through the Sharpdesk Mobile app in the Windows store, but it is limited in what features the copier actually has available to use, that would usually be available to me in the printer settings. If I really need to print something with more options, I pull out my Surface Pro Laptop 3.

  • John
    John Member Posts: 683 ✭✭✭

    If your printer is supported by a Windows printer driver, (very likely) you still might not be able to install it if the manufacturer has not written an arm specific installer program.

    network printers can be a little tricky sometimes when installing drivers. An old trick that I have used before was too plugged the printer into a USB port on the computer, let plug-in play detect the printer, and it should automatically install whatever generic drivers that Microsoft has available.

    the following link says basically the same thing

    If that doesn’t work, you may just be out of luck. At least until the manufacturer writes an ARM specific installer file. But this just serves as an example, if you are adopting a brand new platform some things are just not going to work.

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭

    Samuel, can we get an update on your experience with ARM?

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭

    Rob, it is nice to hear your review. It is the 1st positive review I have seen, so I am still not ready to bite. Please check in from time to time to update us your exprience

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭

    Windows Arm

    Intel Lunar Lake

    AMD Ryzen

    Intel’s Meteor Lake

    Can someone confirm that Logos works (without emulation) on all these chips except ARM?

    Can someone comment on the AMD and Intel Chips vs ARM?

  • John
    John Member Posts: 683 ✭✭✭

    @Mark

    Can someone confirm that Logos works (without emulation) on all these chips except ARM?

    Logos supports Windows 10 (Until October) and Windows 11. But not ARM versions.

    Logos Minimum System Requirements

    Logos recommends "Latest generation Intel Core i7 processor (or AMD equivalent)" on this page.

    However, Intel has been having problems with its two most recent series of desktop processors, 13th and 14th generation. There are also rumors that problems also exist in the latest Arrow Lake processors. Problems are specifically with high end desktop chips. You may want to play it safe by avoiding these Intel processors.

    If you search the internet, you will find hundreds of discussions about this, mostly on gamer and benchmark forums. Intel sold a bunch of bad processors, and rather than taking responsibility, issued a "fix" in the form of a microcode update that essentially throttle the processor to prevent voltage issues. This prevented total failure of the chip, so that Intel did not have to replace under warranty. Later they issued "fixes" for Windows 11. Now they claim all the problems are fixed. But people doing performance intensive gaming and bench-marking are pretty sure they aren't.

    Intel stock is down 55% in the last year. That is after it jumped almost 10% recently upon rumors of an acquisition. Last year it was Apple and Samsung that were interested. Latest rumors are that Elon Musk might buy it.

    If Logos is your primary concern, a Mac is probably your best choice right now. Apple clearly knew where Intel was headed and released their own chips before the disaster at Intel took place. But if you are tied to Windows, there are older intel systems that still perform well. Or there is AMD.

  • John
    John Member Posts: 683 ✭✭✭
    edited January 23
  • John
    John Member Posts: 683 ✭✭✭
    edited January 23
  • John
    John Member Posts: 683 ✭✭✭
    edited January 23
  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭

    You wrote:

    Logos recommends "Latest generation Intel Core i7 processor (or AMD equivalent)" on this page.

    But the page mentions nothing about MAC M Chip….only an intel chip for MACS. Would that not mean that the page has not been updated for a while?

  • John
    John Member Posts: 683 ✭✭✭

    You are right, I did not look at the MacOS part of the page. I think it’s safe to say that it hasn’t been updated in a while. 😂