Need Help With Labeling And Attributes

David W. Gilmore
David W. Gilmore Member Posts: 7
edited November 21 in English Forum

Hi all,

I want to do a Bible study on music in the Bible. Ultimately, what I want to do is see all the verses describing music being played. I want to differentiate between singing and instrumentation. In my head, the search would be "give me all the verses where people are playing instruments". So, I think that means some mixture of highlighting, labels, and attributes, but I'm not sure how to implement it to get what I want. I know how to create styles, how to add labels, and how to set attributes, but I'm not sure how to do it to get what I want. Or should I use another technique to get what I'm after?

Any help would be much appreciated!

Dave

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  • John Fidel
    John Fidel MVP Posts: 3,388

    Have you considered starting with the bible browser and entering music or singing and see the results in the different datasets? It may provide you a good overview of things that you can then work into a detailed search. You can create passage lists and work from there. I with the send to search actually populated the search but it does not.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another option, for the New Testament, would be to use Louw-Nida numbers having anything to do with music/musicians/musical instruments and search for those.

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    You could also use a thematic bible index, such as The New Thematic Concordance, which has a whole section on music. It might not be exhaustive, though.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,776

    I want to do a Bible study on music in the Bible. Ultimately, what I want to do is see all the verses describing music being played. I want to differentiate between singing and instrumentation. In my head, the search would be "give me all the verses where people are playing instruments".

    If you input sing into a Bible Search you will get many suggestions e.g. culture:Music, culture:Singing. You will get different suggestions if you input music and instrument. There may be overlaps and omissions e.g. sense:"musical instrument" does not pick all harps (thing:harp).

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • David W. Gilmore
    David W. Gilmore Member Posts: 7

    Have you considered starting with the bible browser and entering music or singing and see the results in the different datasets? It may provide you a good overview of things that you can then work into a detailed search. You can create passage lists and work from there. I with the send to search actually populated the search but it does not.

    Unfortunately, I don't have access to the Bible Browser. THat looks like a cool feature, though.
  • David W. Gilmore
    David W. Gilmore Member Posts: 7

    If you input sing into a Bible Search you will get many suggestions e.g. culture:Music, culture:Singing. You will get different suggestions if you input music and instrument. There may be overlaps and omissions e.g. sense:"musical instrument" does not pick all harps (thing:harp).

    There are numerous things used to create music - cymbals, drums, harps, horns, voices, etc.I can't think of all of them right now - let alone when I want to search for them. The reason I went to the highlighter/label idea first is I thought I could label things for later reference as I'm doing my read-through Scripture.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,440

    The reason I went to the highlighter/label idea first is I thought I could label things for later reference as I'm doing my read-through Scripture.

    I would automatically go the label route ... and create label attributes for all the information I might want to capture. There is no requirement that all attributes be supplied for a label.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,776

    If you input sing into a Bible Search you will get many suggestions e.g. culture:Music, culture:Singing. You will get different suggestions if you input music and instrument. There may be overlaps and omissions e.g. sense:"musical instrument" does not pick all harps (thing:harp).

    There are numerous things used to create music - cymbals, drums, harps, horns, voices, etc.I can't think of all of them right now - let alone when I want to search for them. The reason I went to the highlighter/label idea first is I thought I could label things for later reference as I'm doing my read-through Scripture.

    I was suggesting Search inputs to enable identification of passages for your labeling or tagging.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13