Tags vs Collections and Methods of research
I have never used tags or collections. When it comes to resource organization, research ideation and analysis of resources, what distinguishes a collection from a tag? Do I have to create either one? It seems a little redundant to have and use both. Does one have a benefit over the other?
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Christian Alexander said:
I have never used tags or collections. When it comes to resource organization, research ideation and analysis of resources, what distinguishes a collection from a tag? Do I have to create either one?
A collection is a group of resources - such as all your resources that explore the Gospel of John
A tag is something you add to a resource - for example to indicate that it explores the Gospel of John
So, in that sense, they are doing different things.
You can use tags as part of the process of creating collections.
So, for example, if you created a tag called JohnGospel you could use mytag:JohnGospel as part of a rule defining a collection.
Then, when you bought a new book looking at John's Gospel, you could add the tag to it and it would appear in the collection.
You certainly don't need to create either but they can be useful in identifying and grouping resources.
You can constrain a Books Search to a particular collection (you can also constrain a Books Search to just books with a particular tag but, particularly if you are going to refer to a set of books continuously, creating a collection can be really useful).
Collections can also be used in Guides whereas tags can't.
Does this help at all?
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I think so. Tags are a great way to create basic categories for searching and organizing your materials and resources. They are basic in that there is no hierarchy, which is how I understand what you meant. Is it true that every tag is its own collection? It appears to me that tagging is used to uniquely identify individual books. Collections are used to bring in a large number of materials that have similar topics, subjects, or other elements. Right now I am studying Jewish Christian relations in the first and second century AD. I would like to do a few sections of resources in my Logos Bible Software. I want one general formulation for intros and surveys, one on books specified in the subject above to John's Gospel, and one on what the church fathers say about Jewish Christian relations. What is my best method of handling this? I am looking for an easy way to do this as well. I want it to be as complete as possible but I also know my research is not all comprised within Logos.
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Adding to Graham:
- Collections work well when growing your library ... the rules can automatically include new resources
- Mark developed the quite good commentary collection rules. In other words collection rules can be copied from other users. Tags can't.
- myTags are a column in the library for quick grouping and counts. Collections, only using the odd-sorted filters.
- Tags indeed can be hierarchical. The levels would be in the tag itself. For example, I have a tag called 'Lng-HebLex'
If I type Lng I get all my language resources
If I type Lng-Heb I get all my hebrew resources
If I type Lng-HebLex I get all my hebres lexicons
And so forth
My library is fully tagged. Typically 2 or 3 per resource. I like complete control on groupings.
And I combine tags with edited titles. I always want my commentaries to sort Biblically. I sort my Bibles by date. Etc.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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.Christian Alexander said:It appears to me that tagging is used to uniquely identify individual books. Collections are used to bring in a large number of materials that have similar topics, subjects
Tags are used to identify or group resources. A Collection can use a rule based on tags with/without other Library metatdata, such as Type, Publisher, Languages, Subjects. Search can use Collections or tags to identify the resources (scroll down to see Collections, Tags and Ratings).
Christian Alexander said:Right now I am studying Jewish Christian relations in the first and second century AD. I would like to do a few sections of resources in my Logos Bible Software. I want one general formulation for intros and surveys, one on books specified in the subject above to John's Gospel, and one on what the church fathers say about Jewish Christian relations.
You have been given Searches for this, so you need to tag the books that appear in results, or tag the ones with useful results e.g. JewChristRel. This is probably an iterative process, where you can exclude books already tagged using * -mytag:JewChristRel.
As you iterate Search and tagging, the next Search will exclude books already tagged.
You might also identify Intros & Surveys e.g. JewChristRel-Intro. This won't affect the Search above. But if you want to search for tags that don't have "Intro", you have to use quotes i.e. mytag:"JewChristRel"
If you want books restricted to John's Gospel, I suggest you do that in a Search rather than tagging them. Just change "All Passages" to John.
For Church Fathers you can create a Collection with the rule: mytag:JewChristRel series:fathers
That series rule will include Apostolic Fathers, but it is doubtful you would have tagged them.
Dave
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Thanks everyone. These searches and data analysis is very helpful and retrospective in my research ideas.
Dave Hooton said:mytag:"JewChristRel"
Does this search require me to do tagging on my end? I do not have anything that I tagged myself.
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Christian Alexander said:Dave Hooton said:
mytag:"JewChristRel"
Does this search require me to do tagging on my end? I do not have anything that I tagged myself.
Yes - you would need to set up that tag (or a tag of your choice)
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Christian Alexander said:Dave Hooton said:
mytag:"JewChristRel"
Does this search require me to do tagging on my end? I do not have anything that I tagged myself.
Yes, it would: mytag
(One day I’ll learn to refresh the page before posting my reply)
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Graham Criddle said:
Yes - you would need to set up that tag
Can you walk me through that process? Or a link that does it.
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Christian Alexander said:
Or a link that does it.
https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016752591-Using-the-Library#info shows you how to set a tag on a book in your library
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