Dialogue with Samaritans
How can I use Logos Bible Software to do a search for the different textual dialogues with Samaritans that are not found in the Synoptic Gospels? I would like to extend the search to the extra biblical texts. I want to find out when the apostles or laypeople spoke with and interacted with the Samaritans. I did a Bard search but it did not respond with anything useful.
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Christian Alexander said:
How can I use Logos Bible Software to do a search for the different textual dialogues with Samaritans that are not found in the Synoptic Gospels?
I would use a simple Bible Seach for samaritan OR samaria (there are some tags relating to Samaritans but a straight textual search is probably easier). This should provide a starting point. And constrain the search range to John-Revelation (or a range of your choice)
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Thank you very much Graham. That is very helpful. Do you have a way to do this with an extra biblical texts? I want to do it in all NT and OT extrabiblical but am not sure how to do so. Any advice?
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Christian Alexander said:
I want to find out when the apostles or laypeople spoke with and interacted with the Samaritans. I did a Bard search but it did not respond with anything useful.
I'm not a Bard'er, but that be a surprise. 'Samaritan' was a major participant in the post-apostolic period, often confusing Simon (who does show up in Acts, suggesting a late dating), with Peter, complete with hard to follow theology. Best I can see, it held on for several centuries.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Christian Alexander said:
Thank you very much Graham. That is very helpful. Do you have a way to do this with an extra biblical texts? I want to do it in all NT and OT extrabiblical but am not sure how to do so. Any advice?
Sorry - I missed that you were interested in extrabiblical. How are you defining that in this context?
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DMB I said the same thing but here is what BARD said "I can't answer the specific question of Samaritian literature because I don't have access to private information." Here was my prompt to BARD, "Tell me where and when the apostles or laypeople spoke with and interacted with the Samaritans in and around the areas of the New Testament."
Graham, I am looking to analyze all forms of biblical apocrypha, Pseudepigrapha, Samaria Ostraca, Roman and Greek works such as Antiquities of the Jews by Josephus (c. 93–94 CE), Annals by Roman historian Tacitus, Mara bar Serapion, Suetonius, The Talmud, and different extra-biblical inscriptions which include the Tel Dan stele, the Merneptah Stele, the Mesha Stele, and the Kurkh Monoliths. Do you think there is a singular search that will fit my request?
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Christian Alexander said:
Graham, I am looking to analyze all forms of biblical apocrypha, Pseudepigrapha, Samaria Ostraca, Roman and Greek works such as Antiquities of the Jews by Josephus (c. 93–94 CE), Annals by Roman historian Tacitus, Mara bar Serapion, Suetonius, The Talmud, and different extra-biblical inscriptions which include the Tel Dan stele, the Merneptah Stele, the Mesha Stele, and the Kurkh Monoliths. Do you think there is a singular search that will fit my request?
These books don't have the same type of tagging as Bibles so you can't, for example, use tagging to search for times when apostles engage with Samaritans
So, as far as I can see, the best you can do is make a collection of the works you are interested in and run a Books Search for Samaritan and analyse the results you get back.
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I did this for all the ones I own in Logos. I do not own the Talmud and Samaria Ostraca. Can you copy and paste the results you get back?
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Christian Alexander said:
I do not own the Talmud and Samaria Ostraca. Can you copy and paste the results you get back?
I'm sorry but I don't think it is appropriate for me to do so.
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From Gemini:
query said:list 10 of the earliest documented interactions between Christians and Samaritans
response said:While there isn't a definitive list of 10 earliest documented interactions between Christians and Samaritans, here's a compilation of some well-known encounters recorded in the Bible and historical accounts:
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Jesus and the Samaritan Woman (John 4:4-42): This pivotal moment depicts Jesus breaking social barriers by talking to a Samaritan woman, something unheard of at the time. Their conversation highlights themes of faith, acceptance, and living water.
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The Parable of the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:25-37): This parable emphasizes compassion and helping those in need, regardless of background. It challenges prejudice and redefines who a neighbor truly is.
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Philip's Mission to Samaria (Acts 8:4-25): Following the persecution in Jerusalem, Philip, an early Christian leader, travels to Samaria and preaches the gospel. Many Samaritans convert and receive the Holy Spirit.
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Peter and John Visit Samaria (Acts 8:14-25): Sent by the apostles in Jerusalem, Peter and John visit Samaria to lay hands on the new believers, granting them the Holy Spirit.
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Samaritan Christians: While details are unclear, the existence of Samaritan Christians suggests early interactions and integration into the faith.
query said:list 5 Christian-Samaritan encounters in para-Biblical texts
response said:Due to the limited scope of para-Biblical texts, finding documented encounters between Christians and Samaritans specifically can be challenging. Here are 5 possibilities to consider, though some involve references rather than direct interactions:
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The Testament of Levi (1st century BC - 1st century AD): This text, not included in the Christian canon but referenced by some early Church Fathers, mentions a "high priest" who could be interpreted as a Samaritan leader. Depending on the interpretation, it might hint at some level of interaction or awareness between the two groups.
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The Dialogue of Justin Martyr with Trypho the Jew (2nd century AD): This text features a debate between Justin Martyr, a Christian apologist, and Trypho, a Jew. While not directly about Samaritans, it reveals the prevailing religious landscape of the time, including the relationship between Jews and Samaritans. This context can inform our understanding of Christian-Samaritan interactions.
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The Acts of Peter (2nd century AD): This apocryphal text, not considered scripture, recounts the adventures of the apostle Peter. Some versions mention Peter encountering Simon Magus, a Samaritan magician. While the historical accuracy is debatable, it reflects early Christian ideas about interactions with figures from other religious backgrounds, including Samaritans.
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The Didascalia Apostolorum (3rd century AD): This early Christian text outlines church teachings and practices. While not mentioning Samaritans directly, it provides insights into how Christians of the time viewed those outside their faith, potentially including Samaritans.
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The Samaritan Chronicle (4th-6th centuries AD): This historical document, written from a Samaritan perspective, might offer glimpses of interactions with Christians, particularly during the Samaritan Revolts. However, accessing and interpreting such texts can be challenging.
If you can't find variations on your question that work, that implies that you are trying to do research at a level you don't have the skills for yet. Go back and reread books you didn't really comprehend, write short papers on topics you can actually research yourself then start adding one point that stretches your ability to do it yourself - stretch rather than ask. AFTER completing the paper, ask on the forums for sources or information you have missed. This will come close to paralleling the seminar experience you would have had if attending college on campus.
Let me walk you through the training I had in writing research papers.
- Grades 1 -8 in a three-room school - absolutely no research training
- Grades 9-12 in the lowest paying district in the state - book reports written as homework and essays written in 2 or 3 hours of class time - we learned to write so well our high school had the highest percentage of students testing out of Freshman English at the state university.
- Undergraduate - most terms had at least one class requiring a paper (10 -15 pages) which was actually read and graded by the professor. Required senior thesis supervised by a professor in your field. Elective seminars where students present and critiqued each other's papers, shared resources, etc. In my college, each paper was done from scratch; some other colleges allowed repurposing of prior papers.
- Graduate - many seminar-structured classes - some fields graduate students didn't share but rather tried to give themselves a leg up for employment. In other fields, you ended up referenced in a professor's book if you found an instance he used in his book. Two major research papers or a Master's thesis - think of publishable quality or close to it. Doctoral thesis - think 2 -4-year project full time with guidance from the chair of your committee.
- In higher education, at no level were 1-2 page essays, notes, option pieces etc. considered research paper.
Consider the research papers you have written that have been critiqued by professors or fellow students. Now place yourself at the equivalent level of experience I outlined above. Set your goals for your research papers appropriately for your experience so you build up the skills rather than relying on others skills.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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