Which of the current features is a "cloud" feature?

1Cor10 31
1Cor10 31 Member Posts: 791 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Hi Logos management!

We are told that, going forward, all non-AI/cloud features will only be available on subscription . We are also told that, currently, the features we already own are ours forever and, by definition, includes features that are "cloud". So which of the current features in the Full Feature set is a "cloud" feature that we will continue to own? 

I've attached the Full Feature set. Would you please update this link (https://www.logos.com/product/228476/logos-10-full-feature-upgrade) to denote which feature is a cloud feature? Or could please post in this Forum the features which you think are "cloud". Whatever is easy for you. My only request is this: please don't waffle. Please let us know exactly which feature is cloud and which is not.

Thank you very much for taking the time to clarify things so as to reduce the uncertainty going forward.

8015.Logos 10 Features with Datasets - 2024-07-01 (Before subscription is introduced).pdf

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  • scooter
    scooter Member Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭

    1Cor10 31 said:

    you think are "cloud". Whatever is easy for you. My only request is this: please don't waffle

    Can I say the following, 1C??  One would want them to 'know' rather than to 'think.'

    The 'think' is a definite maybe, as is 'should be.'  The latter's definite counterpart is 'will.'

    I know you know all this, but want L to make a firm commitment.  

    The waffling makes a pancake of our misplaced hope.

  • 1Cor10 31
    1Cor10 31 Member Posts: 791 ✭✭✭

    scooter said:

    1Cor10 31">you think are "cloud". Whatever is easy for you. My only request is this: please don't waffle

    Can I say the following, 1C??  One would want them to 'know' rather than to 'think.'

    The 'think' is a definite maybe, as is 'should be.'  The latter's definite counterpart is 'will.'

    I know you know all this, but want L to make a firm commitment.  

    The waffling makes a pancake of our misplaced hope.

    You are right. They should know for sure. [Grammar is not my strong suit and hence the carelessness with words.]

    I hope the MVPs press Logos management to be upfront clear about this.

     

    I believe in a Win-Win-Win God.

  • Pedro Pozo
    Pedro Pozo Member Posts: 23 ✭✭

    Notes would be one of those features. I can see them limiting cloud storage for each user on notes. You'll likely never reach it if you don't paste a bunch of pictures in your notes. 

    Pedro

  • scooter
    scooter Member Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭

    1Cor10 31 said:

    I hope the MVPs press Logos management to be upfront clear about this.

    I risk getting in trouble for this, but on contentious issues, some MVPs do not chime in on the forums.

    Do they chime in behind the scenes?  1C, you and I will never know.  If they no-say on the forums, we miss their expertise.

    One MVP I can think of rarely shows up.  I feel he should turn in his MVP badge.  Perhaps his circumstances have changed, precluding ability to help on the forums.

    I thank the MVPs [+ others] for helping me with my questions; my gratitude over this is never in question.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,207 ✭✭✭✭

    1Cor10 31 said:

    So which of the current features in the Full Feature set is a "cloud" feature that we will continue to own? 

    My, my, this is getting complicated. This morning, I was enjoying my Accordance Photo Museum. Quite good; similar to Carta in arranging history with museum evidence. Downloaded. I never thought too long, that the Amarna Tablets were like 'Send a Letter to Maria' meant send her a full size oven-baked brick!

    So, I turned to Logos. Anything similar? There's some image resources/books. But the bulk of the design is the 'Media Tool'. Which is greyed out ... needs to be on-line. I can easily see this subscription thing becoming a problem for non-subscribers.  I'll likely write-off quite a bit of functionality.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭

    DMB said:

     I'll likely write-off quite a bit of functionality.

    Cheer up!  Those of us who spent a Tesla load of money on Logos still have quite a bit left!  

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,207 ✭✭✭✭

    Just popping 1Cor's thread up.

    GaoLu said:

    DMB said:

     I'll likely write-off quite a bit of functionality.

    Cheer up!

    Well, 'actually' I'm on the team rooting for 'subscription everything I don't like' list:

    - Factbook (any hint of it)

    - Timeline (hopeless; finish it off)

    - The trillions of unneeded datasets in the right-click takes-forever-to-load menu

    - Atlas (redeemable but ... finish it off)

    - RIs. Where's George? Make 'em pay!

    More seriously, folks will soon-enough realize their subscribing is a hit or miss proposition ... 1 or 2 new features they actually want.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • 1Cor10 31
    1Cor10 31 Member Posts: 791 ✭✭✭

    Dear Logos Management,

    I am going to make it as easy as possible. Please see attachment for Excel file. Just put "Y" next to the Features that are considered "Cloud"

    Thank you so much. 

    1172.Logos 10 Features with Datasets - 2024-07-01 (Before subscription is introduced) - Forum.xlsx

    I believe in a Win-Win-Win God.

  • Mark Barnes (Logos)
    Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 1,993

    It's not definitive, but doing an inline search in the Help Manual for NET will show you many cloud features.

  • 1Cor10 31
    1Cor10 31 Member Posts: 791 ✭✭✭

    It's not definitive, but doing an inline search in the Help Manual for NET will show you many cloud features.

    Thank you Mark.

    Could you please do all your current customers a favor and demarcate which of the L10 features are considered cloud? Well, even new subscribers need to know. If people stop subscribing after, they don't get to keep the cloud features. So it is imperative that people know what they are paying for. So please please do this urgently.

    Thank you.

    I believe in a Win-Win-Win God.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,098

    It's not definitive, but doing an inline search in the Help Manual for NET will show you many cloud features.

    That is true.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,098

    1Cor10 31 said:

    Could you please do all your current customers a favor and demarcate which of the L10 features are considered cloud?

    in Logos Help?   Because that should be definitive, whilst also distinguishing those features requiring AI Credits  e.g. [Net], [L10] [Net], [Logos Pro Early Access] [Net] [AI Credits].  Currently, those requiring AI Credits are listed under AI Credits  [Logos Pro Early Access].

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13