a question from an Accordance User

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  • Rick Mansfield (Logos)
    Rick Mansfield (Logos) Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 212

    Well, there are lots of factors that would make this very difficult to do. I've worked at both companies, and I can't speak for what Accordance does now, but I am am familiar with what we did when I was there. I know in the past, Accordance used to offer a 30% discount on Collections (their version of what Logos calls Base Packages) for new users coming over from competing platforms. This is easily comparable to our recent introductory pricing on Logos 2025 Base Packages. And, of course, last October, we had an incredible 50% off Logos 10 Base Packages in the "Last Chance" sale.

    Accordance used to try to offer "crossgrade" deals, which amounted to discounts on titles or series you might have in competing software. However, it was never widespread because it required the participation of publishers to either wave royalties or offer reduced royalties, and most publishers declined to participate. I believe the old Accordance webpage that kept track of the crossgrade deals on individual titles and series was taken down long ago.

    The idea of having discounts on every individual title and series you own in one platform to purchase in the competing platform would get complicated very quickly because a user's library is dynamic, not static. Figuring discounts on hundreds, if not thousands, of titles for each potential new user would be an administrative challenge on the part of our sales team. That is, it would take considerable time, with not a lot of return. Accordance created targeted deals for BibleWorks users (after BW announced they were closing) only because BibleWorks was mostly a fixed package of titles, and it was easier to create a fixed Collection of approximate content.

    And, of course, Logos was able to transfer libraries of WordSearch users because they bought the company—which was a healthy platform with lots of users and a good investment for Logos.

    I know all of this can be frustrating as we've seen some of these platforms fold over the years (BibleWorks, Quickverse, etc.), this often results in needing to purchase titles again. If misery loves company, I've done it myself. I've been on all these platforms over the years. I have some titles that have been duplicated in Logos, Accordance, BibleWorks, Wordsearch, OliveTree, Kindle, and even print. But my decisions were made because because ultimately, I needed what I needed when I needed it. Even working for Accordance for many years, I still took advantage of Logos sales—both individual titles and base packages, even duplicating a lot of content. Because of the incredibly large catalog available from Logos, years ago, when I still worked for the other guys, I had a personal Logos library larger than everything offered in the entire Accordance catalog. And in hindsight, I'm very glad I did this.

    All that to say, I know switching platforms can be both difficult and expensive, but if you're considering switching to Logos (and I hope you will!) I would recommend starting with a Base Package, especially when it is discounted. For the resources not in that package, make a priority list of those titles or series, add them to your wishlist on our site, and keep an eye out for our sales, which often have very generous discounts. These sales change monthly (and we even have daily deals).

    The good news is I've been very impressed with the health and vision of Logos since I've been working for the company. I'm no longer buying anything on a competing Bible software platform, and my assumption is Logos is going to be around long after I'm gone from this earth.

    Senior Publisher Relations Specialist
    Logos Bible Software

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,624 ✭✭✭

    My memory is not good at all. But when I 'came over' from Bibleworks to Accordance, the discount seemed quite significant (enough for me to effectively duplicate Logos resources in Accordance). Of course, BW pricing was rock-bottom.

    But I agree, absent FL buying Accordance (unlikely), the move to Logos can be pricey.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Kristin
    Kristin Member Posts: 326 ✭✭

    Hi @Rick Mansfield (Logos) ,

    Thanks for clarifying how the crossover worked at Accordance, I didn't realize that. When BW died, I actually did contact Logos first, letting them know the situation, and to be honest, the person I spoke with sort of blew me off and didn't even attempt to try to convince me why I should duplicate things in Logos. I then called Accordance and was informed of their crossgrade program. Like @DMB , I also remember it as being a significant discount. In fact I know it was. On a side note, I would like to mention that this time when I contacted sales, the guy I spoke to was very friendly and professional, and worked with me to access all the discounts I could personally qualify for. So this gave me the impression that Logos must have changed since the last time I contacted them, and further, I think it really speaks to how when a company offers a discount, it may be expensive on the outset, but it is often well worth it not only in building customers, but promoting customer loyalty.