a question from an Accordance User
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Mark Allison said:
Can you share layouts?
I'm not sure, but I am sure someone else will tell you [:)]
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"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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DMB said:
Let's make sure of what is safe or not:
- When I say 'uploaded' I'm referring to you uploading/sharing the personal book to the servers. This a manual action; most people don't bother (personal books aren't supported on mobiles or app.logos.com). It's these uploaded PBs that can't be deleted.
- You might be referring to 'uploaded' from your diskdrive to Logos.exe (eg word doc). These can be deleted but it's sometimes tricky.
To be frank, I am not sure what I've done. Based on what you wrote, I think I might be safe. As mentioned, I deleted my books, but I just uploaded a new book which I don't care about as a test and uploaded it the exact same way as the the prior books.
DMB said:Added: Absent me being wrong (!), you might contact customer service on Monday. May need bouncing to tech-support. They're quite nice.
Thank you for letting me know. Hopefully between everyone on this thread we can figure out if I am safe or not, and if we can't figure it out, I will try calling Monday. Thank you for letting me know.
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haha
There isn't a purple blob. It's pink. 1 -
Kristin said:
haha
There isn't a purple blob. It's pink. Looks purple to me [H]
True story: An Optometrist I went to years ago (a very nice lady) once told me that men and women perceived color differently. She said the evidence was that in kindergarten the girls all got boxes of crayons with 64 colors, but the boys were perfectly happy with only 8 [:D]
(she might have been joking, but I'm still not sure)
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Kristin said:
So even though I pressed "delete" and I don't have access to it, it is still viewable on Logos?
You have to specifically make your file PUBLIC.
Here is the process.
1) You make a MS Word-docx file that you want as a Personal Book.
2) You build/make a personal book from said file.
3) You check that the book is how you want it.
4) IF you want to be able to have this same book on other LOGOS installs for computers that you own and that you log into with your account, then you upload that book.
It uploads to your account. This allows you to retrieve that book if you need to reinstall Logos. Now you don't have to rebuild the book from the original docx file.
What does NOT happen is that this book becomes visible/public to every one else using logos. Again, You have to specifically/intentionally make your file PUBLIC.
Yes, it is true that you can not delete a personal book from the server once it is uploaded however there are ways around this (you can make a new docx file with at least a line of text of some sort. Build that as a new personal book using the same book name then upload that file. It will replace the original you no longer want to be there.)
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Kristin said:DMB said:
Manually uploaded personal books CAN'T be deleted (from the server). Others may correct me; else customer service.
Wow, that is huge.
I had thought I had checked about whether they were ONLY on my Logos or not, but apparently I was mistaken.To which I reply "well. duh" - if you are going to build a data recovery system that allows one to recover data accidentally deleted, you can't delete the data's identifier. The identifier has to be present to "recover" a file, even if that file is blank. There are variations data recovery systems with regards to how multiple copies of a documents (versioning) happens and a few have some form of hard deletes i.e. removing all record of a document from the recovery system. Logos/Verbum is NOT designed for data with legal privacy restrictions. It used to have a disclaimer to that effect somewhere, I think. The supposition is that documents being behind you sign-in and available only to you is sufficient security. When you want to impose a more complete delete, simply empty the file and change the name to your personal I Am Empty file.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Mark Allison said:
Can you share layouts?
Unfortunately, no. For faith development leaders/teachers this is a significant shortcoming. Make layouts sharable | Logos needs many more votes.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Roy said:
What does NOT happen is that this book becomes visible/public to every one else using logos. Again, You have to specifically/intentionally make your file PUBLIC.
Hi Roy,
So if I am understanding correctly, my book was never uploaded to anything since I never clicked "upload" and only clicked "build" (as shown on my screenshot). Is this correct?
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John said:
An Optometrist I went to years ago (a very nice lady) once told me that men and women perceived color differently.
That is really interesting. I know people sometimes see color differently, but I didn't know there was also a gender difference. That makes me feel like the differences in how people see color is more dramatic than I realized.
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Kristin said:Roy said:
What does NOT happen is that this book becomes visible/public to every one else using logos. Again, You have to specifically/intentionally make your file PUBLIC.
Hi Roy,
So if I am understanding correctly, my book was never uploaded to anything since I never clicked "upload" and only clicked "build" (as shown on my screenshot). Is this correct?
Correct ... you're where you want to be. Life is good!
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Kristin said:
Hi Roy,
So if I am understanding correctly, my book was never uploaded to anything since I never clicked "upload" and only clicked "build" (as shown on my screenshot). Is this correct?
This is correct. Your personal book is only on the computer you built it on UNTILL you upload it.
Not only that, if you look at the screen shot below, you will see that Personal Books are not even listed as a type of personal file that other logos users can see or download. (Files that were intentionally shared by their owners.)
You "can share" a docx file meant to be made into a personal book but again you have to specifically do that.
Hope this helps.
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Roy said:
This is correct. Your personal book is only on the computer you built it on UNTILL you upload it.
Not only that, if you look at the screen shot below, you will see that Personal Books are not even listed as a type of personal file that other logos users can see or download. (Files that were intentionally shared by their owners.)
You "can share" a docx file meant to be made into a personal book but again you have to specifically do that.
Hope this helps.
Yes, that helps a lot, and a great relief. Before I even imported anything into Logos, I had spoken to a few people to make sure it would remain on only my computer. So it was extremely stressful to hear that it was not only on the server but unable to be deleted. I am extremely relieved to hear that I hadn't accidentally uploaded it after all. So I am very relieved.
Thank you also for the screenshot, and it sounds like even if I did click upload (which I plan on never doing), it would still be a multistep process to make it viewable to others. So that is for sure good to hear.0 -
Hello John
I have a BW10 license. With Crossover I was not able to run. Either the Internet Explorer or the German UI is the issue. I got from Crossover some instructions to solve the issue with the German UI, but it doesn't helped.
I have to say: The first time I ran it, it recognized the code keys etc. But not in the further tries.
Do you have a specific idea how I can run BW 10 on my Intel MacBook?
Thanks.
Fabian
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@Fabian - long time no see! I forgot you were a BW user! Maybe someone should start up an unofficial forum or space on the internet for users that work on keeping the programme going. Losing BW was a real tragedy in the Bible Software space as it was such a capable programme optimised for textual studies.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
@Fabian - long time no see! I forgot you were a BW user! Maybe someone should start up an unofficial forum or space on the internet for users that work on keeping the programme going. Losing BW was a real tragedy in the Bible Software space as it was such a capable programme optimised for textual studies.
I wasn't really a BW user. I wanted to purchase BW 11, but then I purchased the BW 10 as it was sold out. BW 10 never worked like a charm. I had several issues on the 32bit (eastern Europe fonts), with the 64bit (after upgrading the Mac to a 64bit OS) the bigger issues came. It is more to have it if I need it.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
@Fabian - long time no see!
Hi Fabian! With the lack of a profile pic, I wasn't sure if it was you, but given Donovan, I think it is.
I had gotten locked out of that email account we had been using (when I switched computers, a long time ago now), and I thought I would never see you again. So I am glad to see you here. I hope all is well!0 -
Fabian said:
Hello John
I have a BW10 license. With Crossover I was not able to run. Either the Internet Explorer or the German UI is the issue. I got from Crossover some instructions to solve the issue with the German UI, but it doesn't helped.
I have to say: The first time I ran it, it recognized the code keys etc. But not in the further tries.
Do you have a specific idea how I can run BW 10 on my Intel MacBook?
Thanks.
Fabian
I followed the MacOS instructions using Homebrew found here: wiki.winehq.org/MacOS
It just worked without any problems, even on Apple Silicon. I have never used Crossover.
Also an option is to use a virtual machine. I used VMware Fusion Pro, which is now free for non-commercial use.
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Hello Kristin
I have wrote to you one or two emails. With some User Bibles, but I guess you never have seen it.
Fabian
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John said:Fabian said:
Hello John
I have a BW10 license. With Crossover I was not able to run. Either the Internet Explorer or the German UI is the issue. I got from Crossover some instructions to solve the issue with the German UI, but it doesn't helped.
I have to say: The first time I ran it, it recognized the code keys etc. But not in the further tries.
Do you have a specific idea how I can run BW 10 on my Intel MacBook?
Thanks.
Fabian
I followed the MacOS instructions using Homebrew found here: wiki.winehq.org/MacOS
It just worked without any problems, even on Apple Silicon. I have never used Crossover.
Also an option is to use a virtual machine. I used VMware Fusion Pro, which is now free for non-commercial use.
Thanks.
Χριστὸς ἐν ὑμῖν, ἡ ἐλπὶς τῆς δόξης·
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Fabian said:
I have wrote to you one or two emails. With some User Bibles, but I guess you never have seen it.
Hi Fabian,
Thank you for letting me know, and you are correct that I didn't receive it. After you wrote that just now, I started trying to crack into that email again, but I still haven't been able to. If you are able to write to my gmail, I still use that. If you can’t, and I can crack into this account, i will let you know. Anyway, thank you for letting me know.
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Just wanted to say hi to the Logos-curious / Accordance ex-pats crowd.
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Jonathan Huber said:
Just wanted to say hi to the Logos-curious / Accordance ex-pats crowd.
:-) Same, but like Rick, I've been a Logos user for 20+ years, even during my Accordance years.
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Jonathan Huber said:
Just wanted to say hi to the Logos-curious / Accordance ex-pats crowd.
And I say to all of you, WELCOME! Let’s get excited about Bible software again! Logos will ease all your pain points:
✅ Time-tested syncing between devices.
✅ Extremely-capable web version.
✅ Cutting-edge desktop AND mobile app development.
✅ Regular feature updates on ALL platforms.
✅ Forums where you can express your honest opinions.
✅ Regular and transparent updates from company leadership.And if you fit the description I quoted from Jonathan above, then you know me. Logos Bible Software is the only Bible software I will endorse. I stand behind it. Feel free to reach out with any questions or concerns anytime: Rick.Mansfield@logos.com
Senior Publisher Relations Specialist
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Rick is in the Logos house!!!
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Rick, I am thrilled about your new gig at Logos. I am hopeful that your presence in the ranks will provide a profiling for the needs of users who employ Logos for academic, language and textual studies. Maybe a web cast, sub forum or focus group might be worth considering?
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Hi! Good to see you!Jonathan Huber said:Just wanted to say hi to the Logos-curious / Accordance ex-pats crowd.
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