What is "ff" or "cf" called after verses?

Hi,

I'm wondering what the "f" "ff" and "cf" are called after verses (example: Matthew 1:2ff or Revelation 20:11cf). I know what they mean "following verse, following verses, and compare verses" but I'm wondering if there is a shortcut like this that indicates "consider also the surrounding text of a particular verse?" I have not found anything in a google search but that's because I don't know what the technical term is for these shortcuts. I just learned how to use them in school. I want to tell my reader to read THIS verse, but consider also the entire context surrounding that particular verse.

Any ideas?

Steven

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Colin Pretorius

Hi Steven.

I don't know if there is a 'technical term' for these abbreviations - I'll leave the answer to those who know more than I do.

W.r.t. your other question: while neither of the following is an abbreviation per se, either may do the trick for you.
cf. context (Compare context)
q.v. context

q.v. is the abbreviation for 'quod vide', which literally means 'which see' or perhaps more dynamically 'for which see elsewhere'. If you add 'context' to that, it will perhaps be clearer to readers.

But, while cf., ff. and the like are more generally known, q.v. is less so.

On a bit of a tangent:
In that wonderful language now sadly no longer taught in most schools (i.e. Latin), the noun for something that is 'in the neighbourhood of something else', is circumiacens, circumiacentis m/f. Used in terms of words, the plural can simply be translated as context. It surely may not simplify things for your readers, but just maybe 🤔 you can create your own abbreviation v.c. for 'see context' ! (But then people may think your referring to a Venture Capitalist or the Victoria Cross, or that you're Very Cool'

Colin Pretorius

Hi Steven.

I don't know if there is a 'technical term' for these abbreviations - I'll leave the answer to those who know more than I do.

W.r.t. your other question: while neither of the following is an abbreviation per se, either may do the trick for you.
cf. context (Compare context)
q.v. context

q.v. is the abbreviation for 'quod vide', which literally means 'which see' or perhaps more dynamically 'for which see elsewhere'. If you add 'context' to that, it will perhaps be clearer to readers.

But, while cf., ff. and the like are more generally known, q.v. is less so.

Steven Veach

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1310704#Comment_1310704

Hey Colin,

Thanks for the response. Those are very interesting ideas. I was hoping there was a shortcode that was in frequent use, but I guess if it was I would have already picked up on it. I guess I could use (See Context).

After a little more digging, the use of these "codes" are considered "notations." But there appears to only be "f" (following verse), "ff" (following verses), and cf. [in front of reference] (compare with this verse(s)). I haven't found yet anything that references "consider context of." I will keep looking and if I find any more information I will post it.

Steven

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1310704#Comment_1310704

Maybe I missed it, but I don't think Colin mentioned f, ff, cf meanings.

f = following verse - probably from L. folio (next "leaf")

ff = following verses - probably a reduplication of above.

cf = compare

I just think AND "foward" OR "fast forward" and "compare."

Colin Pretorius

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1310889#Comment_1310889

Hi GaoLu

Yes, you're right that I didn't mention the meanings of the abbreviations - that was because in his original post Steve mentioned that he knew what they stood for.

I like forward, fast forward and compare....

Regards

Colin

Doc B

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1310889#Comment_1310889

Cf is the abbreviation for Latin conferre ("compare").

Steven Veach

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1310913#Comment_1310913

Cf is the abbreviation for Latin conferre ("compare").

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Steven