Official: Older subscriptions will soon be migrated to Logos/Verbum Pro

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315854#Comment_1315854

Migration FAQs

What if I currently subscribe to Verbum Cloud: Premium?

Your Verbum Cloud: Premium subscription will be migrated to Verbum Max (our highest subscription tier). You will receive more information regarding this transition via email over the next several weeks.

What if I currently subscribe to Connect Starter, Verbum Cloud Essentials, or Logos Explore?

Your current subscriptions are not being impacted at this time. If you would like to move into one of our new subscriptions when they become available this fall, you can call our customer service team and they would be happy to help you.

Will I get to keep my existing subscription benefits during this transition?

If your existing subscription has benefits, you will have the entire month of October to redeem them. After that, you will no longer receive the same monthly benefits as our old subscriptions will be deprecated, but we hope you will be excited about the new subscription perks coming with Pro and other levels of Logos subscriptions.

What are the subscription benefits/perks with the new Logos plans?

Yes! Subscribers at every level will enjoy:

An additional 5% off across the entire Logos catalog*
An extra free book every month from a variety of top publishers - this perk starts November 1st!
Access to Logos Mobile Education courses each quarter

Subscribers of the Premium tier will get access to 3 courses each quarter
Subscribers of the Pro tier will get access to 5 courses each quarter
Subscribers of the Max tier will get access to 8 courses each quarter

Additionally, subscribers of the Pro and Max levels will enjoy:

Access to all features at sermons.logos.com - available at time of migration
A 5% annual reward coupon - migrated subscribers will start earning toward this immediately

*Excludes subscriptions, purchase of credit (like Book Cache and gift cards), bulk purchases, and Pre-Pub and pre-order titles.

Will I still get my 2% reward coupon for being a Connect subscriber?

Yes! Even better, our new Logos Pro subscription comes with a 5% annual reward perk. So, as a migrated Connect subscriber, as long as you stay active you will receive 2% back for the time you were subscribed to Connect and 5% back for the time you were subscribed to Pro. We’ll combine your total reward and deliver it to you via coupon code in Q1 of 2025.

What if I want to subscribe to a different subscription tier?

We’re excited to offer a suite of subscription options tailored to various Bible study needs. Once we’ve migrated you and we’ve officially launched our subscriptions this fall, if you find that a different subscription tier would serve you better, you can always make a change. You’ll be able to do this online at https://www.logos.com/account/subscriptions, or by calling our Customer Support team after the launch happens this fall.

Mattillo

Thank you!

Can you explain how the MobileEd will work? Do we choose our 5 courses or are they preselected?

NichtnurBibelleser

Hi Natalie,

thanks for the information.I'm a german roman catholic, for now with the german FFS and Logos Pro subscription.
So far, I see these possible scenarios as alternatives for me:

Logos (engl.) subscription
Verbum (engl.) subscription
Logos (german) subscription

It would be nice having detailled information on the books included to each variant in order to beeing able to choose which of those meets best my needs.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315862#Comment_1315862

Can you explain how the MobileEd will work? Do we choose our 5 courses or are they preselected?

Great question! I'd be happy to explain. . . Each tier of subscription will get access to a different number of Mobile Ed courses each quarter: Premium will get 3 courses per quarter; Pro will get 5 courses per quarter; and Max will get 8 courses per quarter.

These courses will be preselected by our team and included in your subscription. We will curate them based on the use-case of the subscription tier, for example:

Premium: Designed for small group prep
Pro: Designed for sermon prep
Max: Designed for academic and original language study

As the end of each quarter nears, you'll receive email and in-app reminders about your courses changing soon. We'll offer you a generous discount to purchase the courses that get cycled out as well. When a new quarter starts, you'll be notified about the new courses you have access to.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315864#Comment_1315864

It would be nice having detailled information on the books included to each variant in order to beeing able to choose which of those meets best my needs.

Thank you for being part of our early access program! I hope you're enjoying Logos Pro so far. I don't have all of these details right now, but when we officially launch our subscriptions this fall, you will be able to explore each subscription option in detail, including the books that come in each tier.

Aaron Hamilton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315854#Comment_1315854

If your existing subscription has benefits, you will have the entire month of October to redeem them. After that, you will no longer receive the same monthly benefits as our old subscriptions will be deprecated, but we hope you will be excited about the new subscription perks coming with Pro and other levels of Logos subscriptions.

An extra free book every month from a variety of top publishers - this perk starts November 1st!

It's beginning to sound like the launch day will be 11/01, a fitting day to launch "Logos 11."

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315854#Comment_1315854

Natalie,

Thank you for your very thorough and comprehensive post about the migration process for long-time subscribers. I don't think there are any question that I have that were not answered in your posts.

-Jon

Michael Kinch

Will this affect the Wordsearch Perks subscription?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315878#Comment_1315878

Will this affect the Wordsearch Perks subscription?

Thanks for asking! For now and for the immediate future, we are not making any changes to the Wordsearch Perks program. If/when this changes, we will communicate to all impacted users accordingly.

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315868#Comment_1315868

It's beginning to sound like the launch day will be 11/01, a fitting day to launch "Logos 11."

I don't think 11th January can be considered part of Autumn in the UK that is well into winter.

Aaron Hamilton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315951#Comment_1315951

I don't think 11th January can be considered part of Autumn in the UK that is well into winter.

I would like to extend formal apologies for all of the countless ways we veered off course from the good and proper British ways after leaving your country. We should have known better. [:$]

mike

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315951#Comment_1315951

What should I do with my current plans, Natalie?

Please explain in basic English like I'm 5. I'm lost everytime I visit the forum once a week or less.

David Thomas

If any features from your existing subscription are not included in your new subscription, we will permanently unlock those features for you to own forever.

This is GREAT news! I thought I was going to have to subscribe to MAX to keep (non AI) original language datasets (e.g. Literary Typing)

Adam Sudduth

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315865#Comment_1315865

Each tier of subscription will get access to a different number of Mobile Ed courses each quarter: Premium will get 3 courses per quarter; Pro will get 5 courses per quarter; and Max will get 8 courses per quarter.

These courses will be preselected by our team and included in your subscription. We will curate them based on the use-case of the subscription tier, for example:

Premium: Designed for small group prep

Pro: Designed for sermon prep

Max: Designed for academic and original language study

As the end of each quarter nears, you'll receive email and in-app reminders about your courses changing soon. We'll offer you a generous discount to purchase the courses that get cycled out as well. When a new quarter starts, you'll be notified about the new courses you have access to.

This is where my confusion is: Premium has the 3 so small group prep courses in mind, Pro has 5, so is it different from the 3 in premium or is it 2 additional that are sermon prep based. And then the Max, same question, different or building off the previous and adding 3 that are academic or Original language courses.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315979#Comment_1315979

Each tier of subscription will get access to a different number of Mobile Ed courses each quarter: Premium will get 3 courses per quarter; Pro will get 5 courses per quarter; and Max will get 8 courses per quarter.

These courses will be preselected by our team and included in your subscription. We will curate them based on the use-case of the subscription tier, for example:

Premium: Designed for small group prep

Pro: Designed for sermon prep

Max: Designed for academic and original language study

As the end of each quarter nears, you'll receive email and in-app reminders about your courses changing soon. We'll offer you a generous discount to purchase the courses that get cycled out as well. When a new quarter starts, you'll be notified about the new courses you have access to.

This is where my confusion is: Premium has the 3 so small group prep courses in mind, Pro has 5, so is it different from the 3 in premium or is it 2 additional that are sermon prep based. And then the Max, same question, different or building off the previous and adding 3 that are academic or Original language courses.

If I can, I am also curious on this as I fill both roles of group and sermon.

Lew Worthington

I have been very happy with everything that has transpired except one thing. One of the allures for my subscription to FL Connect (No Library) has been the ability to get 3 ebooks each month. (I know this is a perk lots of folks on the forum have said is not a big deal; but for me, it is.) In fact, I have long had a plan to acquire lots of Loeb volumes through this perk. When the subscription change was announced, I started trying to get as many volumes as possible of Pliny's "Natural History". I knew I would be a couple volumes short by the time my FLC subscription would run out, but I could buy those volumes separately; there would've been only a couple. However, with this perk being discontinued soon, my planning seems to have been in vain.

So why can't we continue to grab our 3 ebooks each month until our original plan's date passes? It seems reasonable for FL to uphold their commitment to their customers for what they understood was part of the soon obsolete purchase, IMO.

danwdoo

When the transition is complete, you will receive a final email to confirm your subscription has been migrated (you will not experience any lapse of access to Logos/Verbum during this transition)

Hi Natalie.
Thanks for your helpful message. I am a Connect no library annual subscriber. I desire to upgrade to Max and then pay 2 years to lock in the current price for that timeframe. Should I wait until the migration is complete and I receive this final email and then make the switch?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1316005#Comment_1316005

When the transition is complete, you will receive a final email to confirm your subscription has been migrated (you will not experience any lapse of access to Logos/Verbum during this transition)

Hi Natalie.
Thanks for your helpful message. I am a Connect no library annual subscriber. I desire to upgrade to Max and then pay 2 years to lock in the current price for that timeframe. Should I wait until the migration is complete and I receive this final email and then make the switch?

While I'm not Natalie, that is what I am doing. The Connect-Pro subscription, which many of us were switched to recently, isn't the real thing. Sometime in the next month or so, the migration will go all the way to Pro. At that point is the better option to switch to Max. I'm in the boat you are, as the saying goes.

Adam Sudduth

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315990#Comment_1315990

Each tier of subscription will get access to a different number of Mobile Ed courses each quarter: Premium will get 3 courses per quarter; Pro will get 5 courses per quarter; and Max will get 8 courses per quarter.

These courses will be preselected by our team and included in your subscription. We will curate them based on the use-case of the subscription tier, for example:

Premium: Designed for small group prep

Pro: Designed for sermon prep

Max: Designed for academic and original language study

As the end of each quarter nears, you'll receive email and in-app reminders about your courses changing soon. We'll offer you a generous discount to purchase the courses that get cycled out as well. When a new quarter starts, you'll be notified about the new courses you have access to.

This is where my confusion is: Premium has the 3 so small group prep courses in mind, Pro has 5, so is it different from the 3 in premium or is it 2 additional that are sermon prep based. And then the Max, same question, different or building off the previous and adding 3 that are academic or Original language courses.

If I can, I am also curious on this as I fill both roles of group and sermon.

Any insight on the question posed here?

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1316659#Comment_1316659

Hmmm. The pot is getting sweeter. [8-|]

Dave Bucci

Natalie, can you please explain what the "5% annual reward coupon" is? What is it 5% of, e.g., is it a coupon matching 5% of our books/packages purchases? Or 5% of the annual subscription cost? Thank you!

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1317865#Comment_1317865

Natalie, can you please explain what the "5% annual reward coupon" is? What is it 5% of, e.g., is it a coupon matching 5% of our books/packages purchases? Or 5% of the annual subscription cost? Thank you!

Natalie's post (second in this thread) had:

Additionally, subscribers of the Pro and Max levels will enjoy:

Access to all features at sermons.logos.com - available at time of migration

A 5% annual reward coupon - migrated subscribers will start earning toward this immediately

*Excludes subscriptions, purchase of credit (like Book Cache and gift cards), bulk purchases, and Pre-Pub and pre-order titles.

Does the last line answer your question?

Yasmin Stephen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1317874#Comment_1317874

*Excludes subscriptions, purchase of credit (like Book Cache and gift cards), bulk purchases, and Pre-Pub and pre-order titles.

What are 'bulk purchases'?

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1317877#Comment_1317877

*Excludes subscriptions, purchase of credit (like Book Cache and gift cards), bulk purchases, and Pre-Pub and pre-order titles.

What are 'bulk purchases'?

Phil introduces them in https://community.logos.com/forums/t/193127.aspx

Yasmin Stephen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1317885#Comment_1317885

Phil introduces them in https://community.logos.com/forums/t/193127.aspx

Thanks, that was helpful.

Jan Krohn

As part of the Logos 10 farewell tour, I purchased the Preaching Suite Essentials (full license, not the subscription.)

However, I got an email that I will be moved to Logos Pro from Preaching Suite. There is not Preaching Suite subscription showing in my account.

Something doesn't seem right here...

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1317897#Comment_1317897

Greetings Jan

I purchased the Preaching Suite Essentials (full license, not the subscription.)

The Preaching Suite is a collection of resources. There is (almost) no subscription for resources.

Logos Pro is a collection of features with supporting resources (and some other resources bundled in)

One can be 'on' Logos Pro (or Max etc) but it would be a pain for me to have to say that I am on Logos Silver, Baptist Bronze, Reformed Silver and Preaching Suit Essentials, and so on.

When purchasing so many packages over the years resources categorisation in terms of membership becomes meaningless.

Wild Eagle

Many of you are aware of our upcoming transition to subscription this fall, and we’re excited to share some information for those of you who already subscribe to various Logos products.

When our new Logos and Verbum subscriptions are released, we’ll sunset many of our old subscription products, but don’t worry! We will be migrating existing subscribers to the new subscriptions automatically. Keep reading for more details and a timeline for this migration.

If you are currently subscribed to one of the following annual subscriptions, your new Logos Pro price will be $99.99/yr.:

Faithlife Connect Essentials (3.0) + Logos Pro (early access) - Annual

I was just charged $149.90 instead of $99.99

Faithlife Connect Essentials (3.0) + Logos Pro (early access) - Annual

Renews on

Sep. 28, 2025

Next payment date

Sep. 28, 2025

Next payment

$149.90 (+ tax)

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1317973#Comment_1317973

I would recommend you call or chat with CS. They can be hit/miss with following the forums. You would get a quicker resolution that way.

Mike Heavin

I have a Faithlife Connect annual subscription through January. What will happen to my FaithlifeTV subscription? I prefer to watch my Mobile Ed classes on Faithlife TV rather than in the Logos app.

Bill Cook

So my current Connect annual subscription goes through December. Will I be charged in October or when my normal renewal time is?

Donnie Hale

Natalie,

If you have the opportunity, please see: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/225713.aspx

Thanks.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315957#Comment_1315957

What should I do with my current plans, Natalie?

Please explain in basic English like I'm 5. I'm lost everytime I visit the forum once a week or less.

I don't know if Mike has gotten a response on this, but I'd like to bump his question.

Dave Bucci

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1317874#Comment_1317874

Natalie, can you please explain what the "5% annual reward coupon" is? What is it 5% of, e.g., is it a coupon matching 5% of our books/packages purchases? Or 5% of the annual subscription cost? Thank you!

Natalie's post (second in this thread) had:

Additionally, subscribers of the Pro and Max levels will enjoy:

Access to all features at sermons.logos.com - available at time of migration

A 5% annual reward coupon - migrated subscribers will start earning toward this immediately

*Excludes subscriptions, purchase of credit (like Book Cache and gift cards), bulk purchases, and Pre-Pub and pre-order titles.

Does the last line answer your question?

Actually, it's not clear (at least to me) that it does, Graham, because only the "additional 5% off across the entire Logos catalog*" line is footnoted with an asterisk. It may just be a mistake, that the end-of-the-year annual reward line doesn't have an asterisk as well, not sure. Or, it could be 5% of the subscription cost (effectively, a 5% rebate). If it's 5% of catalog purchases, it might warrant the extra $30 to step up from Premium to Pro. Thank you for replying!

Adam

Will an academic discount be eligible for savings in a similar way to how there is a 30% discount on base packages offered?

Jan Krohn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1317944#Comment_1317944

The Preaching Suite is a collection of resources. There is (almost) no subscription for resources.

It was a subscription product until the early access offers came up.

I haven't been "migrated", so I still hope that this e-mail was in error.

Jan Krohn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1318145#Comment_1318145

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1315865#Comment_1315865

Can you explain how the MobileEd will work? Do we choose our 5 courses or are they preselected?

Great question! I'd be happy to explain. . . Each tier of subscription will get access to a different number of Mobile Ed courses each quarter: Premium will get 3 courses per quarter; Pro will get 5 courses per quarter; and Max will get 8 courses per quarter.

These courses will be preselected by our team and included in your subscription. We will curate them based on the use-case of the subscription tier, for example:

Premium: Designed for small group prep

Pro: Designed for sermon prep

Max: Designed for academic and original language study

As the end of each quarter nears, you'll receive email and in-app reminders about your courses changing soon. We'll offer you a generous discount to purchase the courses that get cycled out as well. When a new quarter starts, you'll be notified about the new courses you have access to.

I thought Premium and Pro were included in Max, but from your explanation it looks like three of them have independent contents. If this is the case, I have paid USD 129 for Max for nothing.

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1318145#Comment_1318145

It was a subscription product until the early access offers came up.

My mistake - sorry. I will have to pay more attention.

In mitigation

Trae Blain

Is there a list of what I will be losing? What’s the diff between resources available in my Faithlife Connect subscription and what’s is Logo’s Pro? I need to know if a regular resource will suddenly be unavailable?

Roy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1318214#Comment_1318214

This is from another thread...

What is going to disappear from connect subscriptions and what is be included in pro? Chart here

You can follow the link in my quote and see if this answers your question.

I can NOT attest to the accuracy of the information take it with a grain of salt.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1318153#Comment_1318153

Bump!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1318153#Comment_1318153

Can you explain how the MobileEd will work? Do we choose our 5 courses or are they preselected?

Great question! I'd be happy to explain. . . Each tier of subscription will get access to a different number of Mobile Ed courses each quarter: Premium will get 3 courses per quarter; Pro will get 5 courses per quarter; and Max will get 8 courses per quarter.

These courses will be preselected by our team and included in your subscription. We will curate them based on the use-case of the subscription tier, for example:

Premium: Designed for small group prep

Pro: Designed for sermon prep

Max: Designed for academic and original language study

As the end of each quarter nears, you'll receive email and in-app reminders about your courses changing soon. We'll offer you a generous discount to purchase the courses that get cycled out as well. When a new quarter starts, you'll be notified about the new courses you have access to.

I thought Premium and Pro were included in Max, but from your explanation it looks like three of them have independent contents. If this is the case, I have paid USD 129 for Max for nothing.

I thought Premium and Pro were included in Max, but from your explanation it looks like three of them have independent contents. If this is the case, I have paid USD 129 for Max for nothing.

Bump!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1318314#Comment_1318314

Can you explain how the MobileEd will work? Do we choose our 5 courses or are they preselected?

Great question! I'd be happy to explain. . . Each tier of subscription will get access to a different number of Mobile Ed courses each quarter: Premium will get 3 courses per quarter; Pro will get 5 courses per quarter; and Max will get 8 courses per quarter.

These courses will be preselected by our team and included in your subscription. We will curate them based on the use-case of the subscription tier, for example:

Premium: Designed for small group prep

Pro: Designed for sermon prep

Max: Designed for academic and original language study

As the end of each quarter nears, you'll receive email and in-app reminders about your courses changing soon. We'll offer you a generous discount to purchase the courses that get cycled out as well. When a new quarter starts, you'll be notified about the new courses you have access to.

Tes, it has been answered elsewhere (I cannot find the link at the moment) that Pro has all that Premium has, plus what is in Pro, and that Max has all that is in Premium and Pro. If I can find the exact place where it was answered, I'll link it (I am horrible at searching and finding posts I've read before in the forums...I hope it becomes easier with the new forum updates!).

I thought Premium and Pro were included in Max, but from your explanation it looks like three of them have independent contents. If this is the case, I have paid USD 129 for Max for nothing.

I thought Premium and Pro were included in Max, but from your explanation it looks like three of them have independent contents. If this is the case, I have paid USD 129 for Max for nothing.

Bump!

Roy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1318314#Comment_1318314

I thought Premium and Pro were included in Max, but from your explanation it looks like three of them have independent contents. If this is the case, I have paid USD 129 for Max for nothing.

All of the FEATURES in the lower tiers ARE included in the MAX subscription. This has already been stated by official LOGOS employes.

If you looked at the list which shows what RESOURCES (books) are included in each level you would see that MAX includes all of the lower level books PLUS even more.

Also you did NOT pay for nothing. You paid to have access to ALL of the FEATURES which have come out over the last 2 years since L10 was released PLUS all of the features that WILL come out over the next year (the length of your subscription).

What you may or may not keep will depend on whither or not you continue to subscribe for a full 2 years.

As far as the Mobile ED courses are concerned I have no idea but I would guess that once you see an actual list of available courses to pick from you would not be disappointed. My Guess? The same course titles as the lower levels but with more titles added at each level. The added courses would match the target audience. (Again this is a GUESS, I have no inside information.)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1318386#Comment_1318386

Wow. What I had typed apparently didn't get included in my post....lol. That's weird. I should have checked this earlier. My bad. But, yes, Max has everything, feature-wise, that Premium and Pro have.