Lexicon Prioritization

Chris Heil
Chris Heil Member Posts: 166 ✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

For those with all the heavy-hitter lexicons, how do you prioritize your lexicons?  For what do you use advanced prioritization etc?  I am looking for best practices/example prioritizations/screen shots from advanced users and not the how-to of prioritization.  I also recognize users will have different resource preferences but again trying to zero in on some best practice examples.  Thanks in advance.

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,624 ✭✭✭

    Without going crazy, here's the principles I follow for lexicon prioritizing:

    - Analyticals always go LAST.  Like in a baseball game, they play 'catcher' if the big boys miss.  Typically, the analyticals pick up non-tagged OLs, often in monographs etc.  

    - Of the analyticals, I like those that offer some flavor in their presentation (popup, or right-click).  Friberg is a good example.

    - Of the higher ranked lexicons, I generally like those that offer perspective.  The reason for this, is that I use either popups or right-click lookups to quick review.  An example of perspective is Moulton and Milligan that show papyri usage.  The big boys (HALOT, BDAG) I have in my layout; no need to take up prioritizing space.

    - My top prioritized lexicons are often those I recently purchased ... just to get an idea what they're good at. Some can initially look like a waste (eg the old Bullinger that combines quick defs with a in-context concordance, and responds to both OL and english).

    So, obviously, it all depends on how the lexicons are used, and where!

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • John Fidel
    John Fidel MVP Posts: 3,387

    Hi Chris,

    I prioritize the analytical lexicons, but I add parallel text (Multi book view) so it opens one or two other lexicons that have different functions, This way I always get a result and can view lexicons that approach the lemma differently. I change the multi view resources depending on my study as it is easier than changing the prioritization. I use a layout that does not have lots of resources open, but has guides to allow me to access my resources, so this works best for me. Here are some screenshots of the result:

    Lastly, I have advanced prioritization so when I click on a word in the LXX it opens LXX specific lexicons. Here is the prioritization view:

    Hope this helps give you some ideas to develop what works best for you.

  • Chris Heil
    Chris Heil Member Posts: 166 ✭✭

    DMB said:

    Without going crazy, here's the principles I follow for lexicon prioritizing:

    - Analyticals always go LAST.  Like in a baseball game, they play 'catcher' if the big boys miss.  Typically, the analyticals pick up non-tagged OLs, often in monographs etc.  

    - Of the analyticals, I like those that offer some flavor in their presentation (popup, or right-click).  Friberg is a good example.

    - Of the higher ranked lexicons, I generally like those that offer perspective.  The reason for this, is that I use either popups or right-click lookups to quick review.  An example of perspective is Moulton and Milligan that show papyri usage.  The big boys (HALOT, BDAG) I have in my layout; no need to take up prioritizing space.

    - My top prioritized lexicons are often those I recently purchased ... just to get an idea what they're good at. Some can initially look like a waste (eg the old Bullinger that combines quick defs with a in-context concordance, and responds to both OL and english).

    So, obviously, it all depends on how the lexicons are used, and where!

    I will take a look at the lexicons you have suggested.  Would you be willing to share screen shots of your prioritization, with the caveat that it changes as you purchase new lexicons?  Thanks for the information.

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  • Chris Heil
    Chris Heil Member Posts: 166 ✭✭

    I prioritize the analytical lexicons, but I add parallel text (Multi book view) so it opens one or two other lexicons that have different functions, This way I always get a result and can view lexicons that approach the lemma differently. I change the multi view resources depending on my study as it is easier than changing the prioritization. I use a layout that does not have lots of resources open, but has guides to allow me to access my resources, so this works best for me.

    I have not thought to use the parallel text feature in this way.  Not sure why not because I use it in all of my Bible, Bible Commentary, and Encyclopedia focused work.  Handling the lexicons with the parallel text feature would definitely simplify prioritization.  Would you mind posting the rest of the screenshots of your lexicon prioritization?  Thanks for the feedback.

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  • John Fidel
    John Fidel MVP Posts: 3,387

    Chris,

    I have the Bible Word Study guide open in my most used layouts. Prioritization is shown better when I click more on the Lemma section. Here is NT and OT. for me the first 5 are the most important which is what shows up in context menus, searches etc.

    The Lexham Research are newer and I am wanting to see how valuable they are so they are prioritized higher. I do not prioritize all my Lexicons, after 10 or so I just let Logos bring them up in the guides, power lookup etc.

    I think it is easy to overthink some of this stuff.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,624 ✭✭✭

    Would you be willing to share screen shots of your prioritization, with the caveat that it changes as you purchase new lexicons?

    Chris ... my list is going to be really hard to follow.  I use the book series field to rate/discuss volumes ... Logos then puts my ratings in, as the volume title (in the prioritizing list).  I know, I know ... pretty crazy.

    But John's (excellent) discussion is probably closer to your use-case.  I only rarely use the Logos tools,  parallels, etc.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,767

    how do you prioritize your lexicons?

    1. Greek Lexicons
    2. Septuagint Lexicons
    3. Hebrew
    4. Aramaic

    Within each of the above I prioritize

    1. Lexical/Exegetical (covering all words in the NT/OT).
    2. Analytical
    3. Theological

    Although I have Louw-Nida I only use it from the Interlinear pane.

    You need to apply Advanced Prioritization when:

    • a lexicon has multiple indexes in addition to its language Headwords (lemmas)  e.g. for Strong's, LN, TDNT, TWOT
      • restrict it to the language
    • restrict lexicons for Strong's, LN, TDNT, TWOT etc. to that datatype if you don't want them used for language Headwords
      • they must be prioritized above your language lexicons.

    .

    This partial List is mainly to illustrate Advanced Prioritization:

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    Is it clear that my #1 Lexicon is DBL Greek?

    BWS will list non-prioritized lexicons such as Liddell Abridged, New Strong's Dictionary, Vine's, Mounce, Abridged BDB and I may hide some of them to avoid this (Mounce and Vine's are prioritized for English headwords only).

    Dave
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  • Chris Heil
    Chris Heil Member Posts: 166 ✭✭

    I will play with some more based on all of the feedback.  Thanks Dave.

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