Feature Request - Sub-folders in Notes
If would be a great improvement to be able to organize notes with subfolders. I have a folder for each Bible book. It would be nice to be able to create subfolders for particular pericopes within the book folder. At present everything for a pericope is getting dumped into single notes.
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Steven Chapman said:
If would be a great improvement to be able to organize notes with subfolders.
Soo true.
You may know that there is a work around. If you open the Favourites feature from the Tools menu you can create folders, name them and create sub folders which you can also name. Then you can drag notes in there and you can drag searches, layouts, and most other resources and features into the folders. If you drag in a book it is like a bookmark at the page the book is opened at.
I use that a lot in lieu of folder in folders in the notes. (Which I would love to see implemented)
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Can you create notebooks with name Book_Pericope as you need them?
Would that give you what you want.
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I do a similar thing using a numerical phrase before the name of the book so it keeps all the related folders in discrete groups based first on Bible book and then on various research projects and other needs. Anything with the prefix of B66 Revelation groups the note, then B66.01, etc, places it in subgroup order within the group.
You can also use Tags to arrange a similar thing. I would love to see actual sub folder in notes though.
The value of Favourites is that you can drag and drop anything in there, searches, bookmarks, guides, tools, including web links. The downside is you can't see them all in Mobile Apps. You can see them on the Web App.
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What would subfolders accomplish that you can't already do with tags? If I have a 1 Corinthians notebook and a tag for each pericope, I can open my notebook, see all of the tags, and click the one I want.
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Justin Gatlin said:
What would subfolders accomplish that you can't already do with tags? If I have a 1 Corinthians notebook and a tag for each pericope, I can open my notebook, see all of the tags, and click the one I want.
Accomplish? LOL. For me it’s personal preference. That I can have sub folders in Favourites but not in Notes gives me cognitive dissonance. I do use both Favourites and Notes but for different things. I did start using Tags, but something in my mental schema doesn’t like it.
I am sure sub folders are low on the Richter scale of Logos priorities. One has to dream of things like sub folders, or life is tedious.
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Antony Brennan said:
Accomplish? LOL. For me it’s personal preference. That I can have sub folders in Favourites but not in Notes gives me cognitive dissonance. I do use both Favourites and Notes but for different things. I did start using Tags, but something in my mental schema doesn’t like it.
I am sure sub folders are low on the Richter scale of Logos priorities. One has to dream of things like sub folders, or life is tedious.
I get preferring one style over the other. For me, tags are just more flexible folders, and so I prefer tags. It would not hurt me to have both options.
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Justin Gatlin said:
For me, tags are just more flexible folders
You are right, in reality there is little difference. For me, somehow, folders have a more visual quality that quiets the mind 😉.
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Justin Gatlin said:
For me, tags are just more flexible folders, and so I prefer tags. It would not hurt me to have both options.
I have been messing about with Tags again a couple of years ago I had set up a tag system and used it for a long time then I got lazy with it.
After participating in this thread I went back and started going over some recent study notes and tagging them. Just now whilst I was doing some more it struck me what the significant benefit is that tags have over folders. Using tags a note can be in more than one folder. This allows for a greater degree of nuance in identifying what is in a note. Folders seem easier to use but there is really little difference. Thanks for that, Justin.
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Glad you have a system that is working for you!
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Steven Chapman said:
If would be a great improvement to be able to organize notes with subfolders. I have a folder for each Bible book. It would be nice to be able to create subfolders for particular pericopes within the book folder. At present everything for a pericope is getting dumped into single notes.
Is there a place to vote for this?
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Antony Brennan said:
You may know that there is a work around. If you open the Favourites feature from the Tools menu you can create folders, name them and create sub folders which you can also name. Then you can drag notes in there and you can drag searches, layouts, and most other resources and features into the folders. If you drag in a book it is like a bookmark at the page the book is opened at.
Thanks. I will give this a try - along with tags mentioned elsewhere in this thread.
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Justin Gatlin said:
What would subfolders accomplish that you can't already do with tags? If I have a 1 Corinthians notebook and a tag for each pericope, I can open my notebook, see all of the tags, and click the one I want.
I am studying Gal 5.22-26 and created a notebook for that with notes like "love", "joy", "background", "xrefs", etc. I have broken the passage down into several notebooks (love, joy, etc each with notes for background, xrefs, etc). Could you briefly walk me thru roughly how you would organize a notebook(s) and tags for this? Just a few pointers. I envision tons of unruly tags. I've had a hard time using tags in other apps. I like the theory of tags over folders because you can tag stuff in multiple notes to tie them together.
Thanks for your post and any help you might give me.
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Antony Brennan said:Justin Gatlin said:
For me, tags are just more flexible folders, and so I prefer tags. It would not hurt me to have both options.
I have been messing about with Tags again a couple of years ago I had set up a tag system and used it for a long time then I got lazy with it.
After participating in this thread I went back and started going over some recent study notes and tagging them. Just now whilst I was doing some more it struck me what the significant benefit is that tags have over folders. Using tags a note can be in more than one folder. This allows for a greater degree of nuance in identifying what is in a note. Folders seem easier to use but there is really little difference. Thanks for that, Justin.
Myself, I have multiple tags on every Note. When I want to see Notes on "love" (assuming I have Notes with "love" tags)... I use Search... mytag:love... and I see all my Notes with tags of "love". And I seem to look up tags in my Notes fairly regularly. To me, this is better than Notebook and Sub-Notebook.
Some have made the argument that Notebooks are not needed because of the use of tags. I still use Notebooks... but do rely on tags the most. I think there is a place for both.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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I see all my Notes with tags of love, too. I didn’t know anyone else felt the same.
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Ken F Hill said:
I am studying Gal 5.22-26 and created a notebook for that with notes like "love", "joy", "background", "xrefs", etc. I have broken the passage down into several notebooks (love, joy, etc each with notes for background, xrefs, etc). Could you briefly walk me thru roughly how you would organize a notebook(s) and tags for this? Just a few pointers. I envision tons of unruly tags. I've had a hard time using tags in other apps. I like the theory of tags over folders because you can tag stuff in multiple notes to tie them together.
Thanks for your post and any help you might give me.
A bunch of unruly tags would not bother me, but if you are trying to transition from a directory kind of thinking, then think of your notebooks as your top-level folders and use a symbol to identify certain tags as second-level folders. For example, in your Galatians 5:22-26 notebook, make one of your tags #love, one #peace, etc. Then you can type # in the filter box in the notes tool and you will see all of those options. Click #gentleness and the remaining tag options can be used to filter by background, cross-reference, etc. If you want to think of another level, you can use numbers or something, like 2-xref, but I don't think that is very helpful in practice. Also consider making a note and tagging it "index" where you can keep a list of the tags you are using.
The main use of notebooks is sharing with other users. Otherwise, you can do everything with tags.
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Justin Gatlin said:
A bunch of unruly tags would not bother me, but if you are trying to transition from a directory kind of thinking, then think of your notebooks as your top-level folders and use a symbol to identify certain tags as second-level folders. For example, in your Galatians 5:22-26 notebook, make one of your tags #love, one #peace, etc. Then you can type # in the filter box in the notes tool and you will see all of those options. Click #gentleness and the remaining tag options can be used to filter by background, cross-reference, etc. If you want to think of another level, you can use numbers or something, like 2-xref, but I don't think that is very helpful in practice. Also consider making a note and tagging it "index" where you can keep a list of the tags you are using.
The main use of notebooks is sharing with other users. Otherwise, you can do everything with tags.
Thanks. Yes, I am trying to transition from directory-folder thinking. I am going to have to take some time and work thru your suggestions but they look like they hold lots of promise for me. Perhaps this will help me rethink tags in other apps too.
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Justin Gatlin said:
The main use of notebooks is sharing with other users. Otherwise, you can do everything with tags.
In re-reading the line above, I am confused. Where else do you use tags other than notes (or clippings).
BTW : Have you played around with labels in Logos notes. If so, how do they factor in, if any way, to your system?
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Ken F Hill said:
In re-reading the line above, I am confused. Where else do you use tags other than notes (or clippings).
BTW : Have you played around with labels in Logos notes. If so, how do they factor in, if any way, to your system?
Tags are right. I mean that there is nothing that notebooks do that tags can't, except that you can share a certain notebook with others.
I made a whole post about labels: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/225415.aspx
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