Does anyone know if there is a good resource in Logos for a study on the Gates of Jerusalem.
Thanks, Les
Off-topic. Is that Crater Lake? It's been years and years since I visited it.
George, I think it is....
There's some info (and photographs of what they look like now) in the entry on Jerusalem in the Baker Encyclopedia of the Bible.
And there's a quite substantial section on Borders (which includes walls and gates) in the entry on Jerusalem in the Zondervan Encyclopedia of the Bible.
Both of these are terrific resources if you don't already have any encyclopedia of the Bible.
According to product introduction page, the sample page of Zondervan Encyclopedia of the Bible is colorful good format printed page. I want to know is it the same you see in Logo 4? can you take a screen shot of it? Thanks..
BTW, I am also thinking about "Zondervan Illustrated Bible Backgrounds Commentary: Old Testament", this set are the same got full format color page as same as print book? Any comment to have this set if I already have both WBC and TOTC/TNTC?
Yes, ZEB is in full color in Logos 4. Here are a couple of examples from it:
BTW, I am also thinking about "Zondervan Illustrated Bible Backgrounds Commentary: Old Testament", this set are the same got full format color page as same as print book?
Yes, that's in full color as well:
Any comment to have this set if I already have both WBC and TOTC/TNTC?
As its title suggests, ZIBBC is more focused on the background information to the geographic are and time period of the Bible books it covers, so everything from archaeology to cultural, political, economic, and social situations at the time, etc. And it's got lots of gorgeous pictures. It's written more on a popular level, so it's great for personal study. WBC is more of a critical commentary; it will address the textual issues in the original languages and engage with critical scholarship; good for academic work, but probably over the heads of the average congregation member. TOTC/TNTC is more of a homiletic/exegetical/pastoral commentary, so it's good for preparing sermons. Hope that helps.
Wow.. thanks a lot, it looks nice.
If it is background information commentary, would it similar to IVP Bible Background commentary: OT? IVP offers a set of collection, seems cheaper price and many books. But can it be used in L4, not mention there..
Wow.. thanks a lot, it looks nice. If it is background information commentary, would it similar to IVP Bible Background commentary: OT? IVP offers a set of collection, seems cheaper price and many books. But can it be used in L4, not mention there..
IVP collection can be used in L4, its a great set I would highly recommend anyone adding. I'm yet to get the Zondervan titles so can't offer you a comparison.
I would say the Essential IVP Reference Collection which you refer to is probably more bang for your buck and I'd go for it first. It doesn't have pictures (except the atlas), but the dictionaries in that collection are first-rate. The Zondervan Illustrated Bible Background Commentary - Old Testament is 5 volumes (about 3000 pages), and the IVP Bible Background Commentary OT is only one volume (832 pages, according to Amazon; the Logos version doesn't have the possibility to turn on page numbers in it, which is a shortcoming -- that should be added in the future I would hope). So you can tell which one is in more depth. Ideally I'd want to own both, but if you can only afford one at this time, decide based on whether you need more depth (ZIBBC) or more breadth (IVP collection) right now.
Yes, the IVP collection can be used in L4, but it needs to be unlocked with L3 first, or by calling Customer Service and reading the serial number to them over the phone, because it comes on CD only (it was produced for Libronix/L3; has not been converted to L4 yet).
Wow.. thanks a lot, it looks nice. If it is background information commentary, would it similar to IVP Bible Background commentary: OT? IVP offers a set of collection, seems cheaper price and many books. But can it be used in L4, not mention there.. I would say the Essential IVP Reference Collection which you refer to is probably more bang for your buck and I'd go for it first. It doesn't have pictures (except the atlas), but the dictionaries in that collection are first-rate. The Zondervan Illustrated Bible Background Commentary - Old Testament is 5 volumes (about 3000 pages), and the IVP Bible Background Commentary OT is only one volume (832 pages, according to Amazon; the Logos version doesn't have the possibility to turn on page numbers in it, which is a shortcoming -- that should be added in the future I would hope). So you can tell which one is in more depth. Ideally I'd want to own both, but if you can only afford one at this time, decide based on whether you need more depth (ZIBBC) or more breadth (IVP collection) right now. Yes, the IVP collection can be used in L4, but it needs to be unlocked with L3 first, or by calling Customer Service and reading the serial number to them over the phone, because it comes on CD only (it was produced for Libronix/L3; has not been converted to L4 yet).
The other thing to add to this is that since release of IVP set the IVP Dictionaries: Old Testament Pentateuch and Historical books have been released for use in Logos so they are other alternatives to consider adding at some point.
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Thanks Rosie, I don't have these. I will have to look into getting one.
Les
Thank you for correcting me. William's comment that he also thought it was Crater Lake was also valuable in that it indicates that I'm not totally nuts to think that it reminds me of Crater Lake.
I was recently in need of a map of Jerusalem.
There were two resources I used.
First was the Logos Bible Software Infographics, which has a really nice photo map of Jerusalem. http://blog.logos.com/archives/2010/07/logos_4_infographics_and_attention_to_detail.html
Second was in the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia. http://www.logos.com/products/details/1569
You should also know that the individual gates (that are mentioned by name in Scripture) are available in Biblical Things, namely:
This is a nice way to get a summary of references, the various names used, and some of the Bible dictionaries. You'll also get some maps, a link to the geo-coordinates in Google Earth and (depending on your resources) you may also get some nice pictures.
You should also know that the individual gates (that are mentioned by name in Scripture) are available in Biblical Things, namely: Beautiful Gate Benjamin Gate Corner Gate Dung Gate East Gate Ephraim Gate Fish Gate Foundation Gate Gate Between the Two Walls Gate of the Guard Horse Gate Muster Gate Old Gate Peoples Gate Sheep Gate Valley Gate Water Gate This is a nice way to get a summary of references, the various names used, and some of the Bible dictionaries. You'll also get some maps, a link to the geo-coordinates in Google Earth and (depending on your resources) you may also get some nice pictures.
Not having given much thought to the various names of gates in Jerusalem but noting the number listed here, I am rather inclined to think that some of these names refer to the same gate(s). Sometimes there is a popular name for something as well as an official name which could be the case here.
We've given a great deal of thought to the various names of everything in the Bible [:D] That's no guarantee we got them all right, of course, and we'll be glad to hear corrections. If you follow these links, you'll see that many of these gates go by multiple names through the Bible (e.g. the East Gate (Nehemiah) is also called the Potsherd Gate in Jeremiah). In some cases, there's a lengthy period of time in between references, and we tended to be conservative and not assume identity unless we had good evidence for it.
I see that Herod's Gate is not listed anywhere in your list nor in Biblical Things. But a search for it in my Entire Library found among other things a photo of it in BiblicalPlaces.com Image Library. I guess the name "Herod's Gate" must have been tagged onto it later than the time of Jesus? According to New Unger's Bible Dictionary, "The walls and gates as seen in Jerusalem today are due in large part to the construction of Suleiman the Magnificent, sixteenth century A.D. The present walls of Jerusalem have thirty-five towers and eight gates: the Damascus Gate, Herod’s Gate, Stephen’s Gate, the Refuse Gate, the Zion Gate, the Jaffa Gate, the New Gate, and the Golden Gate." None of these is mentioned in the list of older gate names. I think I'd heard of Damascus Gate, Herod's Gate, and Zion Gate, in the context of biblical studies, and it's likely I might have gone looking for them in Biblical Things (or actually, more likely in Biblical Places; that bit's kind of confusing; why is the image from BiblicalPlaces.com but the gates are documented in Biblical Things?) and been disappointed not to find anything there.
We've given a great deal of thought ...
The "royal 'we'"?
Not royal, simply loyal [:D]
I'm the chief architect: Liz Licata (formerly Borries) has been the mainstay of editorial decision-making regarding names and innumerable other details, and several other editorial staff have had a hand in the data as well (which is coordinated between Things, Places, our maps, and our infographics). And "we" in the broadest sense merely meaning "Logos".
According to Wikipedia, Herod's Gate was indeed built in the time of Suleiman. But in particular, it's not named in the Biblical text, our criteria (98% of the time) for inclusion in Biblical People/Places/Things. Some of the other gates are included in the LCV, but there isn't (yet) any easy way to provide links to them: you just have to use search (for example, the Golden Gate).
I think I'd heard of Damascus Gate, Herod's Gate, and Zion Gate, in the context of biblical studies, and it's likely I might have gone looking for them in Biblical Things (or actually, more likely in Biblical Places; that bit's kind of confusing; why is the image from BiblicalPlaces.com but the gates are documented in Biblical Things?) and been disappointed not to find anything there.
Gates are a hybrid in our organization system: we tend to think of them as Places because they're fixed in one spot and have geocoordinates, but we wound up treating them as Things because (unlike mountains and rivers) they're essentially man-made and (unlike cities, which are also "man-made" after a fashion) relatively "small" in their spatial footprint. Same goes for:
and a handful of others. Of course, the BiblePlaces.com Image Library is just the source of the data (and we didn't pick that name [:)]).
Thank you very much everyone, This will be a great start before I have to buy an encyclopedia.
Hmm, I notice that the Muster Gate has no illustrations. Then I discovered that the same is true for the Benjamin Gate, Ephraim Gate, Foundation Gate, Old Gate and the People's gate
Not royal, simply loyal I'm the chief architect: Liz Licata (formerly Borries) has been the mainstay of editorial decision-making regarding names and innumerable other details, and several other editorial staff have had a hand in the data as well (which is coordinated between Things, Places, our maps, and our infographics). And "we" in the broadest sense merely meaning "Logos".
Not royal, simply loyal
I'll accept that. I hadn't noticed that you had a Logos icon.
Anchor Bible Dictionary has many articles on the gates.
I noticed that too and then discovered that it appears that the pictures are directly tied to books so I assumed that I did not have the books that the mentioned gates were in. Would this be a correct assumption? I have silver.
Edit: For example, the Beautiful Gate picture that shows for me is from "The Bible and its Story, Volume 10: Acts-Epistles, Apostles to Revelation". I am under the impression that if I did not have this in my library, I would not get a picture of this one either.
I am under the impression that if I did not have this in my library, I would not get a picture of this one either.
Hmm, I notice that the Muster Gate has no illustrations. Then I discovered that the same is true for the Benjamin Gate, Ephraim Gate, Foundation Gate, Old Gate and the People's gate I noticed that too and then discovered that it appears that the pictures are directly tied to books so I assumed that I did not have the books that the mentioned gates were in. Would this be a correct assumption? I have silver.
Yes, the media items that show up for Biblical Things (and People and Places) are a direct consequence of
So even though i have 2600 resources in my library, i don't happen to get any pictures of these gates either. That might simply be because none of those resources have such a picture (that's probably the case). It's also true that, when we released Logos 4, we began a long process of going back and re-tagging images so they would appear with these pages. That process isn't complete yet, so more tagged images keep getting released. But this is indeed (yet another) good argument for owning as many resources as possible: you're more likely to get images for People/Places/Things.
