A New Logos Forum Category
Why not have a forum for Logos customers not buying a subscription package? I suggest that because so mamy of the posts on forums now relate to subscription issues.
It seems to me that it would be better for both subscription customers, and customers not subscribing, to not crowd their forums with posts not related to their needs.
Unless, or course, I am the only non-subscribing customer, who will still be using Logos.
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley
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Great idea
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Great idea. You have my vote. I have not subscribed nor bought Logos 10 package. . . . YET.
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Interesting idea. I'm on the fence about subscribing (It'll be Verbum if I do). I imagine some of the discussions and requests for help will be different from the subscriber needs and concerns.
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This seems to imply that you're envisioning an entirely new forum for non-subscribing customers.Mike Childs said:It seems to me that it would be better for both subscription customers, and customers not subscribing, to not crowd their forums with posts not related to their needs.
If this is correct it would appear to me to be a bit inefficient as there would be questions that arise that would be germane to either population of user. If I'm wrong and you are simply suggesting, as your subject title implies, that we add a new forum heading, e.g. General, then I agree this idea would likely lend order.
Edit:My opinion doesn't for see the changes coming to the forums.
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
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Mike Childs said:
Why not have a forum for Logos customers not buying a subscription package?
I have no problem with this - but on the other hand, I am hoping the new software will greatly reduce the number of forums.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Beloved Amodeo said:
This seems to imply that you're envisioning an entirely new forum for non-subscribing customers.Mike Childs said:It seems to me that it would be better for both subscription customers, and customers not subscribing, to not crowd their forums with posts not related to their needs.
No, you totally misunderstand what I wrote. I mean another group under this Logos Forums which already has many groups. I think it would be in the best interest of Logos Bible Software to help all of its users. In fact, I think you greatly underestimate how many of us are NOT going to take a monthly subscription. I doubt that Logos wants to just write off all of those customers.
Certainly, they will want to continue selling books to those customers and helping them get the most out of their Logos software.
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Why? It seems to me most of the Forums serve a good purpose so that we do not have to wade through all the posts to find an answer.
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Mike Childs said:
Why? It seems to me most of the Forums serve a good purpose so that we do not have to wade through all the posts to find an answer.
You have a point, but for me, it is the posts in the wrong forums where you have to decipher what they are actually talking about that are the bigger problem.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Crikey!!!Mike Childs said:No, you totally misunderstand what I wrote. I mean another group under this Logos Forums which already has many groups.
I agree with you. I think we're both guilty of responding to a fraction of what was written. I surrendered that I may have misinterpreted your meaning, but followed with a demonstration that ultimately I had caught your meaning and agreed it would be an idea worth considering provided that it was not made irrelevant by unknown changes coming.
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
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Mike Childs said:
Why not have a forum for Logos customers not buying a subscription package? I suggest that because so mamy of the posts on forums now relate to subscription issues.
I suspect that many of the type of posts in a non-subscribers forum would also be relevant for subscribers. My suggestion would be to create an AI forum, which would reduce the number of posts in the existing forums.
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But how would you stop an AI Bot from posting?[H]
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Aaron Hamilton said:
We need to look at what the new Forum will offer e.g.
- Logos and Verbum - covering Desktop, Web and Mobile
- General Forum for Support and Questions
- General Feedback - Discussions
- General Beta Forum
- International Forums
- Books and Courses
- Proclaim
These are convenient categories based on Tags (Desktop, Web, Mobile) and Type of Post (Q&A, Discussion, Idea), which you supply. Then you can see the Status of each thread (Unanswered, Answered) + details like who/when Started, who/when Last Responded.
Restructuring continues, and these are a refinement of what I viewed a few days ago. But it is possible to get directly to threads based on Tags.
Dave
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I'm interested in this category. Will recommendations and discussion on topic covered be highlighted in this category? If so this will be a welcome addition to the forums.Dave Hooton said:Books and Courses
Another question stems from this. Will the forum guidelines be revised? Specifically, in discussing books and courses will we be allowed to take a personal position based on our religious leanings?
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
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It seems like an idea worth considering. From the videos/webinars I've watched on the new subscription version, there are enough changes in the screen layouts, menu options, and interface options alone, to result in questions/posts for the subscription version that would be irrelevant for the legacy version, and vice versa. Add to that all the new AI related features in the subscription version, as has already been mentioned, and you're really looking at two very different products from the users' perspective.Mike Childs said:Why not have a forum for Logos customers not buying a subscription package? I suggest that because so mamy of the posts on forums now relate to subscription issues.
It seems to me that it would be better for both subscription customers, and customers not subscribing, to not crowd their forums with posts not related to their needs.
Unless, or course, I am the only non-subscribing customer, who will still be using Logos.
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Another interesting forum category to consider.Beloved Amodeo said:
I'm interested in this category. Will recommendations and discussion on topic covered be highlighted in this category?Dave Hooton said:Books and Courses
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Beloved Amodeo said:
Will the forum guidelines be revised? Specifically, in discussing books and courses will we be allowed to take a personal position based on our religious leanings?
Beloved Amodeo said:
I'm interested in this category. Will recommendations and discussion on topic covered be highlighted in this category? If so this will be a welcome addition to the forums.Dave Hooton said:Books and Courses
Another question stems from this. Will the forum guidelines be revised? Specifically, in discussing books and courses will we be allowed to take a personal position based on our religious leanings?
Sadly, BA, this will go south faster than a scared pronghorn.
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Mike Childs said:
Why not have a forum for Logos customers not buying a subscription package?
Good idea - unless they put it behind a paywall. [;)]
Instead of Artificial Intelligence, I prefer to continue to rely on Divine Intelligence instructing my Natural Dullness (Ps 32:8, John 16:13a)
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Beloved Amodeo said:
I'm interested in this category. Will recommendations and discussion on topic covered be highlighted in this category? If so this will be a welcome addition to the forums.Dave Hooton said:Books and Courses
The category includes:
A General Forum that will "Discuss books and courses within our catalog, including, by denomination.",
- denominations can be selected/listed using Tags, whilst
- there is a more general Tag for Resources
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Resource Requests that will "Share and vote on new books, products, or other resources for our catalog."
Beloved Amodeo said:Another question stems from this. Will the forum guidelines be revised? Specifically, in discussing books and courses will we be allowed to take a personal position based on our religious leanings?
An Announcement thread (e.g. for a denomination) will guide the discussion e.g. one Announcement quoted the current Forum Guidelines. A personal position which is a statement of denominational teaching should not constitute a "controversial topic" in a denominational thread unless you come from a different denomination! In any discussion thread it would not be controversial to criticise a book wrt to its stated position. I don't think the Guidelines need tweaking wrt "controversial" as that is always a judgement.
Dave
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Beloved Amodeo said:
Specifically, in discussing books and courses will we be allowed to take a personal position based on our religious leanings?
I've never considered personal positions problematic. What is problematic is when they are presented as the only possible, true, God-approval-stamp-bearing position. Unfortunately, the people most apt to present their views in a problematic manner are also those apt to hold minority positions and most unaware of the forumites they are insulting.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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