ADAM QUESTION: when I have a sentence, think Mt 5:48 where do I find the grammatical and syntactic r

MJ. Smith

When I have a sentence, think Mt 5:48 where do I find the grammatical and syntactic roles? I thought that a Bible Word Study on the verb of the clause was the solution, but I don't find anyway to look through the data to find the needed entry.

Graham Criddle

When I have a sentence, think Mt 5:48 where do I find the grammatical and syntactic roles? I thought that a Bible Word Study on the verb of the clause was the solution, but I don't find anyway to look through the data to find the needed entry.

Sorry MJ - I don't understand, I see the roles in the Guide. Please clarify

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1326934#Comment_1326934

The data is there ... somewhere but first you have to already know what the role is and be able to guess who fills that role and how often. There is no ability to search for a particular passage i.e. How am I supposed to find the grammatical and syntactic roles that apply to the sentence/verse Mt 5:48? In this particular case, the disciples who fill the role do not appear in the other context menu coding for the verse so I wouldn't even recognize the entry without the passage reference.

Adam Borries (Logos)

Sorry for the late reply, MJ. I didn't see this before the forums were locked for the migration to the new platform. But now you have the dubious honor of receiving my first real reply comment on the new forums! 😉

For Grammatical Roles, I think BWS's Clause Participants section is what you are looking for, which gives you the grammatical connection with Biblical entities. (I will admit some ignorance as to how to interpret this data; I don't know why Mt 5:38 doesn't have an occurence for teleios. I can ask someone more knowledgeable to comment.)

There's also the much older Grammatical Relationships, which describes the relationships between this word and other words.

syntactic roles

I'm not sure what you mean by this one. Do you mean Semantic Roles, which another aspect of Clause Participants/ Case Frame data?

Otherwise, the only other thing I can this of is the Syntactic Force tagging. You can find that in the context menu, or in the Word by Word section of the Exegetical Guide, after each word's morphology.

Adam Borries (Logos)

Hi MJ, sorry for the delay; I didn't see this before the forums were locked for the migration to the new platform.

For Grammatical Roles, I thing the Clause Participants section of BWS is what you are looking for. (I claim some ignorance on how to interpret this data; I don't know why Mt 5:38 doesn't have any Grammatical Role occurrences for teleios. I could ask someone more knowledgeable to chime in.)

Adam Borries (Logos)

For Syntactic Roles, I'm not familiar with that term. Do you mean Semantic Roles, which is another aspect of the Clause Participants data/ section?

Otherwise, the only thing I can think of is Syntactic Force data, which is available in on the context menu, and in the Word by Word section of the Exegetical Guide.