Best 10-15 Books for a New Customer

Jeremy
Jeremy Member Posts: 687 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I am trying to help a relative find the best 10-15 basic books with Logos. He doesn't know if a base package would be best or just getting 10 or so books. I recommended the NIV, ESV, ESV Study Bible, Eerdman's Bible Dictionary, and the Bible Knowledge Commentary. 

Any other suggestions?

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  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,822

    Without buying at least the minimal cross grade ($70) your relative will not have many of the basic features of Logos.http://www.logos.com/minimalcrossgrade  So I hope he will go at least that far.

    Beyond that a good Bible Dictionary (which you've suggested), the ESV Study Bible (check), a decent commentary (BKC or Believer's), New Nave's Topical Bible, and one of the low-cost Nelson offerings, like The Essential Bible Study Library would be the least I'd suggest.

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  • Jeremy
    Jeremy Member Posts: 687 ✭✭

    Is the minimal crossgrade included in the base packages?

  • BillS
    BillS Member Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭

    Jeremy said:


    Is the minimal crossgrade included in the base packages?


    Yes... IMO, they're always the best value. By the time you've added up the cost of 10-15 books, aren't you closing in on the cost of the least expensive package?

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  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,822

    Bible Study Library and above -yes. Note that in the minimal crossgrade you get reverse interlinear functionality but not the underlying Bible to support it. See this note at the bottom of that page:


    "3. Please note that you will need to own the
    corresponding English Bibles for the following interlinears to work.
    These Bibles are not included in the Minimal Crossgrade:

    • New Living Translation
    • Authorized English Version (1873)
    • English Standard Version
    • New King James Version
    • New Revised Standard Version" (There is a mistake on the web page and some of the versions are listed twice. I've edited it.)

    If you buy the ESV Study Bible (the whole thing not just the notes) then your relative would at least have one reverse interlinear. The rest of the interlinears come with the Bible Study Library. However he/she would lack a Greek or English lexicon to help with his/her use of this function. There are basic versions of these that come with the Bible Study Library (but not Christian Home Library).

    So minimal crossgrade plus ESV will get one reverse interlinear plus the other functionality listed in the crossgrade.

    I'd really hesitate to try to piece something together as you are thinking. There is enough in the Bible Study Library to make that the best choice as long as your relative can afford it. Once you add up prices to get started at all and compare that to what the Bible Study Library costs during the 20% off sale now going on I think going with the BSL is almost certainly the best choice.

     

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    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Lynden O. Williams
    Lynden O. Williams MVP Posts: 9,012

    Go here for free books. Some to them you will need to use your credit card, even though nothing will be charged.

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  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭

    Bible Study Library and above -yes. Note that in the minimal crossgrade you get reverse interlinear functionality but not the underlying Bible to support it. See this note at the bottom of that page:


    "3. Please note that you will need to own the
    corresponding English Bibles for the following interlinears to work.
    These Bibles are not included in the Minimal Crossgrade:

    • New Living Translation
    • Authorized English Version (1873)
    • English Standard Version
    • New King James Version
    • New Revised Standard Version" (There is a mistake on the web page and some of the versions are listed twice. I've edited it.)

    If you buy the ESV Study Bible (the whole thing not just the notes) then your relative would at least have one reverse interlinear. The rest of the interlinears come with the Bible Study Library. However he/she would lack a Greek or English lexicon to help with his/her use of this function. There are basic versions of these that come with the Bible Study Library (but not Christian Home Library).

    So minimal crossgrade plus ESV will get one reverse interlinear plus the other functionality listed in the crossgrade.

    I'd really hesitate to try to piece something together as you are thinking. There is enough in the Bible Study Library to make that the best choice as long as your relative can afford it. Once you add up prices to get started at all and compare that to what the Bible Study Library costs during the 20% off sale now going on I think going with the BSL is almost certainly the best choice.

     

    I agree. I would also recommend Bible Study Library as a starter.

    Bohuslav

  • Edwin Bowden
    Edwin Bowden Member Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭

    I agree. I would also recommend Bible Study Library as a starter.

    I agree. That's where I started.

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  • Friedrich
    Friedrich MVP Posts: 4,772

    all functions don't get fully utilized until Scholar's level, too.  But your relative ought to do well with Bible Study or Leaders package.  My neighbor (new Christian, but a reader) just went with the Scholars on payment plan (ca. 50 a month).  He has added to it since then, too (IVP Essentials, and some other stuff)

     

     

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  • AndyTheGreek
    AndyTheGreek Member Posts: 232 ✭✭

    all functions don't get fully utilized until Scholar's level

    Which functions are enabled/better utilized with the Scholar's package?

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,822

    You do not get the Greek or Hebrew texts and some of the original language tools in the exegetical and word study guides until you get to the Original Languages Library and above (including Scholar's). Text Comparison is not available until this point, either.

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    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Jeremy
    Jeremy Member Posts: 687 ✭✭

    100 bucks for the ESV Study Bible with notes is probably the biggest rip off Logos has ever tried to sell.

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭

    Jeremy said:

    100 bucks for the ESV Study Bible with notes is probably the biggest rip off Logos has ever tried to sell.

    i don't understand. I'm not showing the ESV Study Bible at $100. Which one are you looking at?

  • Jeremy
    Jeremy Member Posts: 687 ✭✭

    The ESV Study Bible with notes is $100. Eve $59.99 without notes is far too expensive.

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,822

    Please check this: http://www.logos.com/products/details/5253

    The price of $60 includes the ESV text and the notes. Notes alone cost $40.00.

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    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,787

    Jeremy said:

    probably the biggest rip off Logos has ever tried to sell.

    Doesn't the price also include the interlinear/reverse interlinear?

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  • Friedrich
    Friedrich MVP Posts: 4,772

    Andy Bell said:

    all functions don't get fully utilized until Scholar's level

    Which functions are enabled/better utilized with the Scholar's package?

    Things like the exegetical guide, which won't really have resources to pull from in the earlier base-packages.

    I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

  • Jeremy
    Jeremy Member Posts: 687 ✭✭

    Please check this: http://www.logos.com/products/details/5253

    The price of $60 includes the ESV text and the notes. Notes alone cost $40.00.

    $60 is still way too high when the hardcover is half of that.

     

  • Peter Jonas
    Peter Jonas Member Posts: 22 ✭✭

    I personally think Bible Dictionaries really shine in the Logos format compared to commentaries.  If a person groups their favorite dictionaries as a collection, you can find every instance a passage is mentioned in a wide range of articles.  I especially like the Anchor Bible Dictionary, Harper's Bible Dictionary, Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, Eerdman's Dictionary and the various dictionaries put out by IVP.