Cluttered Feeling on New Forums

DAL · 2024-11-22T20:40:02+00:00

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I can’t help but think that the new forums look and feel cluttered. Posts don’t get as much visibility and the various options, sometimes hard to figure out e.g. click no to your question has not been answered, make the new forums give credit to the old saying “Be careful what you ask for!”
I guess is a matter of getting used to it, but it seems like things were easier to find in the old forums.

Just my two cents!

DAL

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Donovan R. Palmer

Certainly, a challenge with putting everything in one place is that it starts to become overwhelming.

My hope and suspicion is that this forum design is not a one-off thing. @Jason Stone (Logos) seemed to indicate that there is more to come and that there will be some development at least in the near term. This is huge compared to the old forums that were static for years and years.

It took me a bit to calibrate to this new organisation, but for the most part, I am becoming more familiar with how things are done here. YMMV

Whyndell Grizzard

Cluttered is not the word I would use- it's has become useless for me. I guess it would happen sooner or later.

Morgan

I just miss having easy access to a master list of "Unread Posts". The Home feed of new posts is too short.

Donovan R. Palmer

Have you tried ‘view all’? It won’t do the same as ‘unread’, but it does give a longer list.

Ben

I used to read the forums every day and I'm relatively young and tech-savvy, and expected some disorientation with new software. But this forum setup make me feel really lost; it all looks the same, there's no sense of place at all.

Antony Brennan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1344120#Comment_1344120

Hi @Morgan I've found the best method is to use the RECENT POSTS link on the right side of the page

community.logos.com/discussions

EastTN

https://community.logos.com/discussion/243602/cluttered-feeling-on-new-forums

I agree completely.

DMB

I think as long as Faithlife is excited by the new forum, that's all that matters.

I agree with most of the comments (complaints), probably because the old forum was pretty intuitive-ish and efficient. Some problems (search). I'm not sure how the new one is supposed to work … even the post timestamp (on my Safari) is in the future.

A good suggestion post ('Feedback') I wanted to comment on, by suggesting a better alternative …. which also would answer another feedback request. But my addition would seem rude for a formal feedback entry … the old suggestion forum was a place for banter back and forth relative to a formal feedback entry.

I was pleasantly surprised to see MJ pull ahead in the posting horserace. What if she takes a break??

https://community.logos.com/discussion/243602/cluttered-feeling-on-new-forums

I agree as well. I used to have Feedly point to the old site as an RSS feed which would give me a great overview of new posts, but I don't think that is possible any longer. I am also confused by the new layout…

Simon’s Brother

To be honest I'm not excited by the new forums. They are hard to navigate, to know exactly where you are or how to quickly to get to where you want. The simple list view of the old forum software was much easier to find your way around. I had no poblem with it on mobile. The list view made it so much simpler to navigate. With these new forums I have to spend a lot more time scrolling and scrolling, whether on the desktop or mobile, to see what I could easily see on one page on my mobile or desktop with the old forum software.

The new forums seem give the impression of something tryng to emulate facebook but does it badly. So much wasted screen space. There are huge margins on my desktop screen on both the left and right hand side that are just sitting there waiting to be used but are ignored. And then here is a time stamp sitting on its own under the member's name that there is plenty of room for it to be displayed at the end of the line above, even with he cramped layout that is ignoring most of the free sreen space. Because there is so much wasted space on any one screen you can only see a very small number of post responses at any on time. To re-affirm wat others have said, I feel lost in these new forums they are not intuitive and most certainly not efficient because the list view is gone, and you can't view a significantt number of posts at once to quickly determine what you want to read

Charlene

Totally agree! Not a fan of the new Forum look. Can't really see what is interesting or what might help me. Usually I check daily the Forum…but the way it looks now, I might be checking things rarely, if ever.

Milkman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1344133#Comment_1344133

Totally agree!

mm.

Donovan R. Palmer

I was pleasantly surprised to see MJ pull ahead in the posting horserace. What if she takes a break??

@DMB as near as I can tell, @MJ. Smith never takes a break! 😜

(‾◡◝)

Anyone can design anything, but making it intuitive/simple-to-use/logical/etc. is the art of engineering.

scooter

That ring road says lease a helicopter.

Doc B

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1344310#Comment_1344310

Winner of the day. ^^^^^^

Doc B

I'm happy to be patient and take the time to change old habits before I get too uptight. I think as we get used to the new digs and Logos tweaks some things (they are getting a ton of good suggestions), this will end up way better than what we had.

Jon

agreed, the cluttered feeling on the forums was one of the reasons why I stopped using the shuttered Logos Circle platform, and unfortunately this seems to echo those vibes.

Bill

I agree, but it's just something new to learn. I'll get it eventually…I hope😆

Frank Sauer

I personally think the "look" of the forum is improved. The fact that I can now easily use the Forums on a mobile device is the best improvement.

I too, find the navigation of the old forums a little more "friendly" - but @Jason Stone (Logos) and others appear to be frequenting the Forums for the feedback and working on improvements. So hopefully, now that the hard work of transferring all our posts is complete - they will start reviewing the feedback and working on the navigation.

Jason Stone (Logos)

Thanks a bunch for the great feedback! Keep sharing your thoughts, and I really appreciate everyone taking the time to do so. We’re working on making the new community site even better, especially for our members. We’ve made a lot of improvements already, and we’ll keep working hard to make it even easier for everyone to use. Grace and peace.

Paul Caneparo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/243602/cluttered-feeling-on-new-forums

I used to check the forums regularly. Now far less so. Perhaps that will change, but I much preferred the previous simplicity.

scooter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1344445#Comment_1344445

Because everything was all in a row

There was only one place you had to go

MJ. Smith

It may not work for everyone but I've found settings in notifications provide me with a single list accessible from the bell beside my picture that is working as a single comprehensive list - actually improved over the old forums as it is screened for unknown languages and Proclaim.

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Antony Brennan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1344499#Comment_1344499

@MJ. Smith can you briefly describe how you did it, or at length if time permits?

Donovan R. Palmer

I like this new platform and applaud the effort to bring everything into one space. It took me a bit to get my head around it, but I can see the logic.

Optimising it will take a while, but once some core functions are sorted out and the layout of pages is sorted, I suspect most of us won't want to return. The old forum was very long in the tooth, but credit to it, it had served us for 15 years!

Paul Caneparo

Whilst accepting the look of the forums has changed, is there a link I can use to just view the equivalent of the old Logos general forum, which was my main forum, other than the ebooks one for commenting mainly on sales that publishers hadn't extended to Logos. 🙁

Frank Sauer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1344571#Comment_1344571

Along the lines of what MJ posted - I have found that if I just want to concentrate on content that I "Follow" - the last two options under the Notification Settings are for Categories Followed and if you click the "Bell" icon and use the Manage Followed Content link, you can try to customize it as close to your liking. Then the notification bell will have a decent listing of what you want to follow (especially if you uncheck the "bell" for anything that you don't want in the list, while in Notification settings)

Antony Brennan

@Frank Sauer 🤙

Milkman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/243602/cluttered-feeling-on-new-forums

Still getting used to the new facelift. I know it's supposed to be "better" or whatever word you want to use, but if truth be told, what was so "bad" with the original forum page(s)? As they say, 'Sometimes good enough is good enough.' Or 'good enough isn't good enough.' I'm going with the former. Minor tweaks might have saved the day.

Fore me, it's too busy. I liked the simplicity of the original. We all got used to it and personally speaking, sometimes I would go to the forums just to see what so and so was posting or just to walk around and see what a person was thinking/asking or replying. I have my favourites. But now, I find myself losing heart. I don't want to lose touch with many of you. It's a family sort of and a bit sad to find myself in this head-scratcher.

But, I get it. Maybe it's time for the relics to either lay back or jump in with both feet and giv'r a shot. And besides with all those "ancient" candles who could blame the ole milkman for ceasing from the early milking of cows to delivering to his long-time customers and having a cup of coffee with them?

Someone in an earlier post alluded that the Forums had become a tad, harsh, resulting in one of our long-time and dare I say beloved forum users baleing. Things aren't as rosie as they once were and that's a sad thing.

I'm under no illusion that the Forums will revert to the original format and I'm confident that suggestions and comments are all taken to heart. Logos/FL has been and will be a good company and her staff wonderful ppl.

Anyway, that's my glass of spilt milk. So to quote The Green Mile - Get Busy living or get busy dying. OR in milkman lingo; Get busy adjusting or get busy sulking. Now on to milking my black and white friends. People need their milk.

DMB

Milkman, you HAVE to deliver milk. It's your forum job. We all have our jobs.

But for me, they're getting closer. If they showed who last posted and go-direct, I'd be ok.

In theory, the new app has more power … bug reporting, help, etc. The use of tags … I have my doubts. Badges, embarrassing. Ha.

But best of all, more Logos adverts! Great buys you already bought.

scooter

Hi, milkman: Remember me, the guy formerly from the 'Peg?

I tell people about the Icicle in the Forehead one gets walking straight into the wind on a cold January day: 30 below, with a 30 mph wind. I guess what I'm saying is we turn down a side street towards the new Forums; it's a little warmer here.

They're building a new etherial village where stuff is done differently. This is down the side street, where a bunch of new streets and avenues have appeared.

I seriously dislike computer changes, but am trying hard to learn this new village while Jason of Faithlife still inhabits this space. Will you do so as well? Or, there is always the icicle straight from its headwind into your heart.

Milkman

Will give it a chance. Just don't want to start slipping on these icy streets, fall and give up. Thanks.

The milk delivery will go on. Thanks.

scooter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1346265#Comment_1346265

You betcha.