Logos versus Verbum

Kevin Houghtaling
Kevin Houghtaling Member Posts: 111 ✭✭

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$$$ Question: Does anyone know the differences between the two platforms?

Long story short, I had to install Verbum 37.2 on my MacBook since the old OS will not support Logos 38. Logos will no longer start and I can’t revert back to Logos 37.

The Verbum app interface looks almost identical but perhaps the dashboard has some tweaks. In Mac the app gets stored in another disk image media so now I have both a Verbum app and a non-functional Logos app.

I am now using a few more GB of data storage for the resources… no idea why I can’t say if my library count has changed but I do see I have new temporary books due to Vervum Max subscription. I am pondering if I lost any temporary Logos books. Does anyone know the differences between the two platforms?

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,007
    edited December 2024

    Verbum is functionally the same as Logos but with some predefined Collections like Catechism, Church Fathers, Church Documents in Books Search and some different terminology e.g. homily for sermon. It does not require a Verbum subscription or Verbum base Library as it will use your existing library. My Verbum Dashboard is the same as Logos'.

    I am now using a few more GB of data storage for the resources… no idea why I can’t say if my library count has changed but I do see I have new temporary books due to Vervum Max subscription.

    This is nothing to worry about. Temporary books still use disk space (!) and you don't lose books/resources or features because of a new subscription.

    Dave
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  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,811 ✭✭✭

    Logos is better 👍😁👌

  • Thomas Sihapanya
    Thomas Sihapanya Member Posts: 2

    I was wondering the same question, being catholic but using reading a lot of other denominations books.

    @DAL , In what way Logos is better ?

  • NichtnurBibelleser
    NichtnurBibelleser Member Posts: 438 ✭✭✭
    edited February 12

    Verbum has

    • the Catholic Topical Index
    • a Card on the Default Screen with Catholic Daily Readings
  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 12

    Also some collections (I don't use collections much).

    I like Verbum. I joke, that's it's the cute logo … among Mac logos on the side, it's the sophisticated one.

    But I also like access to some of the collections that show up, etc. Early Chrstianity was 'unavoidably' catholic (lower case) … bishops and so forth. And topics are what I'm unfamiliar with … interesting.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,474

    @Toms -

    @DAL was cracking a joke. Any self-respecting Catholic (i.e. me) would tell you that many in the liturgical tradition use Verbum i.e. its not just for Catholics. For those using the "old canon" i.e. including the deuterocanonicals in some manner and the "traditional" theological vocabulary, Verbum is the obvious choice. For those using the Masoretic+NT canon and (recent) Protestant theological vocabulary, Logos is the obvious choice. That clearly leaves many in the middle to make their own subjective choice.

    Example of the vocabulary difference - I once went nuts trying to find the incarnation in the theology guides. Finally found it in under "birth of Jesus". Whoever created this entry clearly didn't know their Athanasius.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭
  • EastTN
    EastTN Member Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭

    …Any self-respecting Catholic (i.e. me) would tell you that many in the liturgical tradition use Verbum i.e. its not just for Catholics. For those using the "old canon" i.e. including the deuterocanonicals in some manner and the "traditional" theological vocabulary, Verbum is the obvious choice. For those using the Masoretic+NT canon and (recent) Protestant theological vocabulary, Logos is the obvious choice. That clearly leaves many in the middle to make their own subjective choice.

    That's how I've always understood it. Verbum is more oriented towards the needs of liturgical traditions, while Logos is more oriented towards the needs of non-liturgical traditions. I'm on the non-liturgical side, and have always used Logos. But the core functionality is basically the same, so it's really just a matter of whether the user interface is "tweaked" to suit your tradition.