Poll: How comfortable are you with using Logos?
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Beginner
Yes, when I worked for Accordance we always felt that users who were able to use the software with confidence were our best form of advertising.
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Beginner
I concur with Mark and others that have chimed in about the free seminars.
I will say that MP seminars was top notch. I was able to binge on the lessons and at least get the program ‘usable’ with collections and layouts. However, not everyone will want to invest in the software and then invest again for the training.
I’ve wondered if Logos has some kind agreement or contract with MP Seminars that they won’t ‘compete’ in this area of training?I think Logos would have huge success with Mark’s idea. There is nothing quite like a live demonstration by an expert to sell a product. Whether it be a kitchen gadget or software, it works. Add a little personality in there and it’s a done deal.
In my limited capacity I demonstrated Logos 10 to a friend and he went home and he upgraded from 8 to 10 immediately.0 -
Advanced
I was never familiar with their all day seminars, but I am very familiar with their free webinars. The webinars (as you know), often spoke of a specific topic (such as a passage of Scripture), and explained how to use Accordance to get the most out of the passage or task. Multiple ways of doing something was also shown. The webinars then provided discount codes to provoke people to buy the modules demonstrated. The webinars were all free, but also often grades (beginner, intermediate, advanced) so people knew if they wanted to sign up. People could ask questions, and then after that the webinar was online for free for others. When I came to Logos I looked for the equivalent, but I have instead found it to be a REALLY frustrating process to learn even basic functions.
I think learnlogos.com by John Fallahee does a lot of what you describe here. It's not all free - only sometimes - , but very affordable (especially if compared to MP Seminars).
Have joy in the Lord!
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Advanced
Here is my advice/ oppinion:
There is no comparison to Logos based free training and MP seminars even under new leadership. I generally attend both free webinars from MP Seminars and Logos… MP Seminars is so much better and on point. Having said that, it would seem to me that if one is investing $1500+ to start in Logos resources, a discounted annual membership of $160 to help you get bang for your buck in a no brainer. I have been an MP subscriber for years and have no regrets. The training seems to be geared for ministry professionals who love to study the Word. They have started in person seminars again. Having been to several over the years, I would recommend this as well because of the level of fellowship with folks who, like yourself, value Bible study enough to invest in a world class tool.
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Beginner
@Jason Stone (Logos) this is just what I meant by switching. When I use the Logos Ipad app Bible Study Builder to make clippings I must go back to webapp to be able to get a ref.ly link. But sadly there is no share option. So with L4 links being disabled I don't have any option to add the clippings document to my Bible Study document in the links section. Also one reason as mentioned as beginner as you learn something and then it gets changed and as mobile user with limited functionality you are stuck with the new changes. Just one big frustration for me using Logos for Bible Study. Old way of reading physical books no bugs or things that was working getting changed or broken with new updates .
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I know this conversation has drifted. I found MP to be valuable when purchased at the discount. The deep dive offered with CampLogos cannot be replaced with training snippets. I got a lot out of a Camp taught by Moe and then a newer Camp by Josh. These are still valuable even though there have been application changes. Until recently there was not a lot of change year over year. I look forward to the new Camp for this year… I will wait for the video. This should help fill the gap made by the advancement of the Logos App.
I have learned from the training team at Logos but their focus can be limited by the nature of their mission. I have nothing negative about these dedicated people. The mission of MP is for profit and the price reflects that. The comprehensive all in one deep dive is beneficial unless you want to spend every day in self-study learning every aspect of the program. Others may disagree.
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Intermediate
Yep … conversations generally go off message late into page 1 or early page 2. After that, attempts to right the ship are not easy, ending in swiss-cheese conversations thereafter.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Beginner
Need some help here. Being based in Singapore - it's quite hard to get to speak to someone at Logos for me due to the time difference. Helpful if Logos could help a whats app number that we could call or toll free line. I wanted to leverage the sales to upgrade my logos but wanted to understand them before.
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