Arguments against the Reformation

Milkman · 2025-01-12T16:50:48+00:00

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This is not up fore discussion. Just to put that out there.

I'm coming from a Reformed Baptist stance.

I'm looking for resources that argue against the 'validity' of the Reformation. I want to test my "firm theological foundation." (you saints of the Lord).

My library is weighted in favour of the Reformation, but weak in arguments, historically and theologically against it.

My first preference would be resources in Logos but anything outside is fine as well.

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MJ. Smith

@Milkman

I'm looking for resources that argue against the 'validity' of the Reformation. I want to test my "firm theological foundation." (you saints of the Lord).

There are two questions here with very different answers: (a) was a reformation needed in the Western Church especially in the Germanic region and (b) was the reformation that occurred the corrective that was needed or something "new" in a negative sense? Mark Allison gave you a solid start on the latter question which is the question under the most dispute.

https://orthodoxbridge.com/2018/11/09/orthodoxys-official-response-to-calvinism-the-confession-of-dositheus-1673/

https://orthodoxbridge.com/2012/08/12/plucking-the-tulip-1-an-orthodox-critique-of-the-reformed-doctrine-of-predestination/

These are from a website that explicitly studies the Calvinistic and Lutheran sides of the issue. Beyond knowing this website, Calvin is outside my area of expertise.

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Aaron Hamilton

It may be helpful to identify more specifically what you'd like to focus on. I'm not sure that any book could successfully argue against the validity of the Reformation as a whole, which encompasses a massive and multifaceted religious and political movement. But focusing on one or more specific aspects or consequences of the Reformation could yield a very interesting and engaging study.

Mark Allison

You might want to see if there are any books on the Reformation from an Orthodox perspective.
It's not in Logos yet, but I've just submitted a request for this resource:

https://community.logos.com/discussion/245261/rock-and-sand-an-orthodox-appraisal-of-the-protestant-reformers-and-their-teachings/p1?new=1

(I don't know why my links aren't active. I add a space after the URL, and that works when I'm in the Feedback forums, but not here).

MJ. Smith

@Milkman

I'm looking for resources that argue against the 'validity' of the Reformation. I want to test my "firm theological foundation." (you saints of the Lord).

https://orthodoxbridge.com/2018/11/09/orthodoxys-official-response-to-calvinism-the-confession-of-dositheus-1673/

https://orthodoxbridge.com/2012/08/12/plucking-the-tulip-1-an-orthodox-critique-of-the-reformed-doctrine-of-predestination/

These are from a website that explicitly studies the Calvinistic and Lutheran sides of the issue. Beyond knowing this website, Calvin is outside my area of expertise.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1353121#Comment_1353121

Maybe since you came over from Accordance they still have you under the 3 month trial period 😂😂😂 J/K

I have found that if I edit my post, the link or any other link I add becomes inactive for some reason. It doesn’t happen all the time but it does happen.

NichtnurBibelleser

The Council of Trent.

John Henry Newman

Scott Hahn.

NichtnurBibelleser

The beauty oft the Catholic Church seen by Peter Kreeft.

Donovan R. Palmer

You might consider checking out Rock and Sand - Joshua Trenham

Richard Dowdy

Another historically important counterargument to the reformation is the Confutatio Pontificia of 1530. This was the Catholic response to the Lutheran Augsburg Confession, which was in turn rebutted by the Apology to the Augsburg Confession.

I don't know of any sources in Logos that contain more than excerpts from it (which is surprising!) but the full document is easy to find on the web.