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NovaBench
Score: 479This is a Dell Precision M4400 notebook. I purchased it last March specifically because of the Logos 4 upgrade. The good news: I got the sales rep to knock about $200 off the price. The bad news: the new i-Series processors came out about 6 weeks later!
10/17/2010 10:52:18 PM
Microsoft Windows 7
Professional
Intel Core2 Duo P8700 2.53GHz @ 2535 MHz
Graphics Card:
NVIDIA Quadro FX 770M
4084MB System RAM (Score:
111)
- RAM Speed: 3423 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score:
222)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 50773486
- Integer
Operations/Second: 144092046
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second:
716091
Graphics Tests (Score: 121)
- 3D Frames Per
Second: 375
Hardware Tests (Score: 25)
- Primary
Partition Capacity: 297 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 71 MB/sPastor, rural Baptist church
Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9
Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1
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I didn't post my results but my Sony Vaio laptop had a total of 343, ram 106, cpu 201, graphics 10, hardware 25. The graphics results, which are Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M, seemed rather sad. I have upgraded my desktop graphics and it was easy enough to do. I was wondering about suggestions for a graphic upgrade and the difficulty of installing it. I also use two displays if that enters into the equation. Thanks.
"For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"
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Scott S said:Steve said:
This is a Dell Precision M4400 notebook.
I was looking at buying that notebook. The Benchmark scores look good. How does it do running Logos 4?
Scott, a lot depends on what machine you are coming from. My older Latitude D520 with integrated graphics (shared memory) was unreliable running Logos 4: it would sometimes freeze for a few seconds, then thaw out. Scary. The M4400 runs circles around it.
On the other hand, this summer at a Camp Logos I sat beside a guy with a nice i-5 processor. His scrolled more smoothly with panels linked and/or the reverse interlinear open.
The grass is always greener on the other side of the tech hill, yet the price point between processor classes remains steep. I am not sure I could have afforded a comparable machine with Intel's new chips. At the same time this dual core beast is going to feel obsolete more quickly. Overall I'm glad I purchased what I did, when I did. I'm just real careful who I sit next to when the notebooks come out.
Pastor, rural Baptist church
Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9
Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1
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On my Desktop:
NovaBench Score: 983
21/10/2010 5:45:27 PM
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
Intel Core i7 860
2.80GHz @ 2797 MHz
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series
4092MB System RAM (Score: 138)
- RAM Speed: 8830
MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 670)
- Floating Point
Operations/Second: 205304592
- Integer Operations/Second: 778184632
- MD5
Hashes Generated/Second: 905984
Graphics Tests (Score:
159)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 481
Hardware Tests
(Score: 16)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 100 GB
- Drive Write
Speed: 89 MB/sDave
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On my Laptop:
NovaBench Score: 318
NovaBench Test Results
21/10/2010 6:07:42 PM
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Intel Core2 T7200
2.00GHz @ 1995 MHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce Go
7300
2047MB System RAM (Score: 101)
- RAM Speed: 2620
MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 199)
- Floating Point
Operations/Second: 50536510
- Integer Operations/Second: 119675614
- MD5
Hashes Generated/Second: 627874
Graphics Tests (Score:
12)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 44
Hardware Tests (Score:
6)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 20 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 65
MB/sDave
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My desktop machine...NovaBench
Score: 540
21/10/2010 10:18:23
Microsoft Windows 7
Ultimate
AMD Phenom 9850 @ 2500 MHz
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 4550
4096MB System RAM (Score: 106)
- RAM Speed: 2412
MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 357)
- Floating Point
Operations/Second: 102215072
- Integer Operations/Second: 304503816
- MD5
Hashes Generated/Second: 704572
Graphics Tests (Score:
63)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 206
Hardware Tests
(Score: 14)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 78 GB
- Drive Write
Speed: 89 MB/s0 -
My office machine:
NovaBench
Score: 51721/10/2010 13:02:13
Microsoft Windows 7
ProfessionalMicrosoft Windows 7 Professional
Intel Core2 Q8300 2.50GHz @ 2494
MHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8300 GS
2047MB System RAM
(Score: 106)
- RAM Speed: 3768 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score:
365)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 101730372
- Integer
Operations/Second: 301868068
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second:
764887
Graphics Tests (Score: 26)
- 3D Frames Per
Second: 92
Hardware Tests (Score: 20)
- Primary
Partition Capacity: 288 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 48 MB/sThis is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!
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NovaBench
Score: 16810/21/2010 8:48:56 AM
Microsoft Windows XP Home
Edition
Intel Pentium 4 2.40GHz @ 2394 MHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce4
MX 440 with AGP8X (Dell)
2047MB System RAM (Score:
94)
- RAM Speed: 1312 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score:
61)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 15043937
- Integer
Operations/Second: 18432567
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second:
395309
Graphics Tests (Score: 0)
- 3D Frames Per
Second: 0
Hardware Tests (Score: 13)
- Primary
Partition Capacity: 466 GBI would say this is probably the bottom limit of acceptable for L4. I have been thinking about upgrading since I installed it. It can get the work done but it requires some patience. Perhaps God is using this as a means of grace.
Greg
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clipped my Drive Write Speed when copying. It was 13/MBs
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This is on my laptop. The score does not seem to compare well to some others, but L4 runs quite well. It does make me wonder how I might run on a newer model. [^o)] Christmas is coming[:O]
10/21/2010 9:09:38 AM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Genuine Intel 585 2.16GHz @ 2161 MHz
Graphics Card: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
3965MB System RAM (Score: 106)
- RAM Speed: 2801 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 126)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 25282881
- Integer Operations/Second: 62843819
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 611075
Graphics Tests (Score: 10)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 39
Hardware Tests (Score: 18)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 140 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 75 MB/s0 -
Fred Chapman said:
It does make me wonder how I might run on a newer model.
Christmas is coming
You know, if enough Logos users decided they needed faster machines to run Logos, we might single handedly revive the economy by upgrading. [:)]
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Steve said:
Scott, a lot depends on what machine you are coming from. My older Latitude D520 with integrated graphics (shared memory) was unreliable running Logos 4: it would sometimes freeze for a few seconds, then thaw out. Scary. The M4400 runs circles around it.
Steve, we must think alike or something -- I'm not only thinking of buying a Dell Precision like you bought, but I'm still running a Lat D520. [:)]
I do get occasional freezing for a few seconds. I've read that happens with some faster PCs too, which made me a bit wary about upgrading.
My D520 might be newer or spec'd differently than yours, it has a core 2 duo and 7200 rpm drive, and I turn off unnecessary processes some apps try to run (in msconfig), so maybe my situation isn't quite as bad as yours was.
Anyways, I'm encouraged to read that your new Dell doesn't have that freezing problem. I will probably go that route. Thanks for that feedback.
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NovaBench Score: 1168
10/22/2010 1:38:21 PM
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
Intel Core i7 920 2.67GHz @ 2668 MHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
12279MB System RAM (Score: 201)
- RAM Speed: 8256 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 626)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 204382360
- Integer Operations/Second: 677007512
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 855692
Graphics Tests (Score: 308)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 880
Hardware Tests (Score: 33)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 279 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 129 MB/s0 -
Now I realize this is misleading.
For example, Don's Drive Write Speed is actually much higer than mine but the reason I got a good Hardware score is because my Primary Partition Capacity is larger, which in many cases will not improve performance at all (i.e. when it is just empty, unutilized, never-needed space). This is exaclty my case since I devoted the boot disk only for OS; everything else is elsewhere, distributed in separate hard disks. So, my overall score should not be that high, I think.
gabe.
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Gabriel Orea said:
I got a good Hardware score is because my Primary Partition Capacity is larger, which in many cases will not improve performance at all
The write speed and Primary Partition size are not that relevant to L4 eg. my L4 is on a different partition. The other 3 test subjects are more relevant.
Dave
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Scott S said:
Anyways, I'm encouraged to read that your new Dell doesn't have that freezing problem. I will probably go that route. Thanks for that feedback.
Scott, I'd be happy to forward a copy of my invoice to you if you'd like to read the detailed specs. Just a note: the Precision comes with a host of security apparatus that THIS pastor's office doesn't need: smart card reader, etc. The machine itself runs like a top. My favorite "option:" backlighted keyboard. [I]
Pastor, rural Baptist church
Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9
Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1
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Steve said:
Scott, I'd be happy to forward a copy of my invoice to you if you'd like to read the detailed specs. Just a note: the Precision comes with a host of security apparatus that THIS pastor's office doesn't need: smart card reader, etc. The machine itself runs like a top. My favorite "option:" backlighted keyboard.
Please send specs to scott underscore c300 at yahoo
The back lite keys are a great idea.
Thanks so much!
Scott
P. S. Let me know when you see this message, as I believe that I have ten hours to delete my address.
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NovaBench Score: 371
Dell Studio 1737
10/16/2010 11:25:44 AM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Intel Core2 Duo T6500 2.10GHz @ 2100 MHz
Graphics Card: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650
4091MB System RAM (Score: 110)
- RAM Speed: 3116 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 203)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 50580120
- Integer Operations/Second: 126862410
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 624735
Graphics Tests (Score: 29)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 100
Hardware Tests (Score: 29)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 451 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 64 MB/sDesktop
NovaBench Score: 1252
10/16/2010 10:55:12 AM
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
Intel Core i7 920 2.67GHz @ 2661 MHz
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
6143MB System RAM (Score: 172)
- RAM Speed: 10795 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 632)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 204409208
- Integer Operations/Second: 677956600
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 876107
Graphics Tests (Score: 404)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 1130
Hardware Tests (Score: 44)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 492 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 133 MB/sHey Rosie,
what is your benchmark on your new puter?
blessings to all,
danp
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Dan Pogue said:
Hey Rosie,
what is your benchmark on your new puter?
Haven't even ordered it yet. It's been on my to-do list for weeks, but I've been too busy... Arggh! If only I could break free from this addiction to the Logos forum, maybe I'd have time to do other stuff in my life. [:)]
I wouldn't expect to see me posting my benchmarks for it for another few weeks still. Yes, believe it or not, I have even higher priority things that I've been procrastinating on.
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Hey Rosie,
I feel your pain...ok...not with the forums...just have a hard time keeping the good things and whats better in the right priorities!
blessings,
danp
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NovaBench
Score: 673
10/25/2010 10:37:58 AM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home
Premium
Intel Core i7 Q 720 1.60GHz @ 1600 MHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA
GeForce 310M
4031MB System RAM (Score: 117)
- RAM
Speed: 4757 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 441)
- Floating
Point Operations/Second: 162862432
- Integer Operations/Second:
458117104
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 554940
Graphics Tests
(Score: 83)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 263
Hardware
Tests (Score: 32)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 454 GB
- Drive
Write Speed: 75 MB/sThis is my personal computer--not my work computer.
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I have a Dell Studio 17. Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium.
My scores:
Novabench Score: 814
SystemRam Score: 170
CPU Score: 476
Graphics Test Score: 134
Hardware Score: 34
In my opinion, my laptop does a pretty good job of running Logos 4. That is why I bought it.
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Michael Childs said:
I have a Dell Studio 17. Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium.
My scores:
Novabench Score: 814
Michael, that's a good score. What's under the hood?
Pastor, rural Baptist church
Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9
Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1
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NovaBench
Score: 1382
10/26/2010 10:00:08 AM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home
Premium
Intel Core i7 920 2.67GHz @ 2668 MHz
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD
5800 Series
12279MB System RAM (Score: 202)
- RAM
Speed: 8433 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 626)
- Floating
Point Operations/Second: 204395456
- Integer Operations/Second:
676388128
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 854644
Graphics Tests
(Score: 536)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 1463
Hardware
Tests (Score: 18)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 74 GB
- Drive
Write Speed: 140 MB/sI have been out of town, so it took a little longer to post the updated numbers and review of the SSD.
The new drive didn't change the NovaBench numbers much. (As Expected) Although the performance is better, it is an 80GB SSD, compared to a 640 GB HD. Capacity is a large factor in the Novabench scores. The Windows Experience Index seems to better reflect the improved handling of the machine. It increased from 5.9 to 7.5. ( on a scale of 1.0 to 7.9) All of the terms such as MBs/S and calculations per second are relative and obscure. The one that really matters is the smiles per second scale. On that one, the numbers are off the chart. An SSD boot drive is well worth the expense. No, I don't work for, or own stock in Intel.[:P]
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hi everybody
my benchmark for my laptop Acer Aspire 5620
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Ouch! Some of you guys have some real machines!
I have an older Toshiba laptop and it scores quite low-
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NovaBench Score: 395
10/28/2010 4:10:36 PM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Intel Pentium D 3.00GHz @ 3000 MHz
Graphics Card: LogMeIn Mirror Driver
6142MB System RAM (Score: 135)
- RAM Speed: 3312 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 150)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 34489650
- Integer Operations/Second: 93988002
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 503253
Graphics Tests (Score: 96)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 303
Hardware Tests (Score: 14)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 149 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 43 MB/s0 -
Just got a new netbook: MSI Wind 12 U230 L-087US
It's no speed demon, but it's small! How does it run Logos 4? W e l l . . . k i n d o f s l o w l y . The display is pretty good, but building a passage guide takes awhile. It took all day to index. Literally. I was doing some other things at the same time (moving files, etc.), but believe me, it took 8 to 10 hours.
BUT, I didn't by the netbook for speed, or even for Logos. I'm just glad to see that Logos 4 runs on it.
NovaBench
Score: 198
11/16/2010 3:33:34 PM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home
Premium
AMD Athlon Neo MV40 @ 1600 MHz
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 3200
Graphics
3968MB System RAM (Score: 99)
- RAM Speed:
1421 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 71)
- Floating Point
Operations/Second: 13955144
- Integer Operations/Second: 37603632
- MD5
Hashes Generated/Second: 323447
Graphics Tests (Score:
15)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 54
Hardware Tests (Score:
13)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 134 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 41
MB/sPastor, rural Baptist church
Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9
Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1
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Rosie Perera said:
This looks useful and very interesting to see the wide range of results people are getting. I wonder if we might be able to come up with recommendation for a minimal benchmark people would want to have on NovaBench to make Logos run acceptably fast? (But I guess everyone's definition of "acceptably fast" will be unique.)
I think Rosie has a great idea. It WOULD be nice if there was a benchmark performance standard for making Logos 4 work. Like Rosie, I wouldn't BEGIN to judge what another would call "acceptable," but I did take a little time to crunch the numbers from the replies to this thread. Here's what I found:
- The average Novabench score was 536
- The top and bottom scores were 1398 and 80
- Six had a score over 1000
- Seven had a score under 200
My notebook score was 479 and I find it to be plenty fast for Logos 4. Not exactly snappy, but above "adequate."
Some misc. notes: If a user upgraded and posted both scores and I caught it I only recorded the higher score. If a user listed two machines I counted both results.
Here is a simple chart. To my eye, most users had a score under 600.
Pastor, rural Baptist church
Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9
Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1
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Steve
Thanks for the time and effort to do this work - greatly appreciated.
My score was 268 - significantly towards the left - and I find that Logos speed is quite acceptable.
It would be interesting to know how many people with machines to the right of this graph still have performance issues.
Graham
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Graham Criddle said:
It would be interesting to know how many people with machines to the right of this graph still have performance issues.
I did some very expensive research in this field. I believe my last score was 1382. A substantial outlay is required to reach that score. And yes there are still performance issues, especially in the note taking area. Did the new machine improve the overall performance? ... Absolutely. However, The machine can only process the data that is fed into it.
Error in...Error out. [:S]
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Steve Johnson said:
I think Rosie has a great idea. It WOULD be nice if there was a benchmark performance standard for making Logos 4 work. Like Rosie, I wouldn't BEGIN to judge what another would call "acceptable," but I did take a little time to crunch the numbers from the replies to this thread. Here's what I found:
- The average Novabench score was 536
- The top and bottom scores were 1398 and 80
- Six had a score over 1000
- Seven had a score under 200
Thanks, Steve! My laptop was one of the "under 200" ones (197). It is pretty painful running Logos on it. It's not that old a machine and it runs everything else just fine, including having dozens of apps open at a time and multitasking like crazy between them. But it's embarrassing trying to show off Logos to friends when I'm out and about with my laptop. I keep having to apologize for it ("sorry it's so slow, but I've got a slow laptop") while we wait for many many seconds for a Biblical Places map to show up. Nobody would want to buy Logos after seeing me demo it on my laptop. I don't like having to buy a new computer just for one piece of software that taxes it too much, but I suppose eventually I will have to.
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I am late to the party, but here goes:
Got 359 in a earlier result, but so be it.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Running an HP G71-340US. I have Logos Platinum plus some.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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I like being able to gauge the strengths of my old laptop compared to my new one. But it raises questions. The score of my old one (Toshiba duo-core) is about one third of the new one (Asus G73JW) but the increase in speed with Logos is not (`3x faster) what I would have expected. Why? And maybe the answers will help us Logos users in the future when we go to upgrade again.
BTW - Dave, you said the HD write speed and primary partition capacity is pretty much a non - factor with Logos. Do you mean A SDD hard drive (like what Abi upgraded to) will not make searches "snappier" ? will not noticibly affect speed / performance of L4?
Scores: Toshiba E105-S1402
Nova Score: 366
12/20/2010 10:15:36 AM
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
Intel Core2 Duo P8400 2.26GHz @ 2267 MHz
Graphics Card: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
3935 MB System RAM (Score: 110)
- RAM Speed: 3663 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 215)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 50765882
- Integer Operations/Second: 129247696
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 725430
Graphics Tests (Score: 14)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 53
Hardware Tests (Score: 27)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 297 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 80 MB/sand now Asus:
Nova Score: 995
12/20/2010 8:44:42 AM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Intel Core i7 Q 740 1.73GHz @ 1734 MHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M
8117 MB System RAM (Score: 171)
- RAM Speed: 7207 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 514)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 202536128
- Integer Operations/Second: 488905712
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 661651
Graphics Tests (Score: 291)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 835
Hardware Tests (Score: 19)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 116 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 105 MB/sSo what do these scores mean in terms of better performance / faster searches / etc. within Logos?
My first guess is CPU related, but the score of Asus [514] crushed my Toshiba [215] but the Toshiba CPU speed is: 2.26GHz @ 2267 MHz comp. w/ Asus: 1.73GHz @ 1734 MHz (although burst speeds of the i7 are supposed to be much higher).
Secondly, the Toshiba Hardware test scored 27 while my Asus only 19 (both are 7200PPM). Would not a SSD increase the score and if so increase performance some? I thought I did my research before buying, but this is not adding up.
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Home built system, specifications in my sig. Pity NovaBench tests the system drive by default, not the drive on which Logos is installed (130 MB/s write speed).
NovaBench Test ResultsNovaBench
Score: 1089
12/21/2010 12:03:43 AM
Microsoft Windows 7
Ultimate
Intel Core i7 920 2.67GHz @ 2793 MHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 295
12287 MB System RAM (Score: 201)
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RAM Speed: 8200 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 619)
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Floating Point Operations/Second: 205538288
- Integer Operations/Second:
636120568
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 875783
Graphics Tests
(Score: 231)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 677
Hardware
Tests (Score: 38)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 466 GB
- Drive
Write Speed: 104 MB/sFrom the look of this thread, Novabench is weighted towards videocards which perform well in OpenGL (rather than DirectX), and fast hard drives. I note that it doesn't seem to weight RAM volume and speed or videocard RAM volume quite as highly, and the apparent preference for cards which do well in OpenGL is interesting. I may be wrong, but that's what I see at a first glance. I'd really like to know which specs Logos 4 prefers.
Win 7 x64 | Core i7 3770K | 32GB RAM | GTX 750 Ti 2GB | Crucial m4 256GB SSD (system) | Crucial m4 256GB SSD (Logos) | WD Black 1.5 TB (storage) | WD Red 3 TB x 3 (storage) | HP w2408h 24" | First F301GD Live 30"
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Steve Johnson said:
My notebook score was 479 and I find it to be plenty fast for Logos 4. Not exactly snappy, but above "adequate."
Some misc. notes: If a user upgraded and posted both scores and I caught it I only recorded the higher score. If a user listed two machines I counted both results.
Here is a simple chart. To my eye, most users had a score under 600.
I just got around to running the benchmark test. I'm glad you crunched the numbers so we can have some idea where we stand in the continuum. Like your "most users", my score was under 600 -- specifically 470. I generally find performance to be quite adequate with the exception of notes. Notes is extremely frustrating. It will lock up the program for as much as several minutes even on my machine which, while not the fastest was certainly no where near being the slowest. I would like to test it on my old, old Gateway to see how that performs. I can only cringe at the thought. Isn't the progress in computing power amazing? Yet, programs continue to be developed to push that computing power to the max. As my stepson used to say when he was a teenager "Too much is never enough."
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Here is my Score:
NovaBench
Score: 329Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Intel Core2 Duo T7500 2.20GHz @ 2194
MHz
Graphics Card: Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset
Family
2007 MB System RAM (Score: 103)
- RAM Speed:
3093 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 213)
- Floating Point
Operations/Second: 50703432
- Integer Operations/Second: 125956516
- MD5
Hashes Generated/Second: 726857
Graphics Tests (Score:
6)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 24
Hardware Tests (Score:
7)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 74 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 24
MB/sLogos 4 on my system is usable. I suspect my biggest Achilles heel is the HDD. I have found that my HDD is the bottleneck of my system. At times Logos 4 is quite quick, but the menus, command bar tend to lag significantly.
Getting a new laptop February 2011. Looking for a Core i7 with 8GB Ram, 1 GB ATI dedicated graphics and a 7200 rpm 1TB HDD. I truly hope that would be sufficient.0 -
Rosie Perera said:
Thanks, Steve! My laptop was one of the "under 200" ones (197). It is pretty painful running Logos on it.
I can't believe how your similar 2 GHz processor performed so badly (69) compared to mine (199 on page 3). The indication from other 2.0-2.2 GHz laptop processors is that 200+ is the usual score. I found another test that had our processors about equal (mine is two places lower!). It appears that you got a bad sample[:(]
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:
It appears that you got a bad sample
It could be a cooling/configuration issue. Most laptops will reduce the CPU speed to save battery power, and all PCs will reduce speed if the computer is overheating.
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Rebooted laptop - started Task Manager - waited for start-up stuff to finish - closed Task Manager - ran Nova Bench - below average result:
NovaBench
Score: 45912/20/2010 2:50:21 PM
Microsoft Windows 7
Ultimate
Intel Core2 Duo P8400 2.26GHz @ 2267 MHz
Graphics Card: ATI
Mobility Radeon HD 3670
8157 MB System RAM (Score:
154)
- RAM Speed: 3749 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score:
213)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 50772596
- Integer
Operations/Second: 128690800
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second:
708712
Graphics Tests (Score: 66)
- 3D Frames Per
Second: 215
Hardware Tests (Score: 26)
- Primary
Partition Capacity: 298 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 76 MB/sThankful Logos 4 is usable.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Mark Barnes said:
Most laptops will reduce the CPU speed to save battery power,
Let's hope that Rosie did run the test on battery power!
EDIT: or has a non-battery Power Option that restricts the CPU to well under 100%!
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Living and learning - rerunning benchmark after unplugging AC adapter bit slower overall:
NovaBench
Score: 429
12/20/2010 5:17:10 PM
Microsoft Windows 7
Ultimate
Intel Core2 Duo P8400 2.26GHz @ 2267 MHz
Graphics Card: ATI
Mobility Radeon HD 3670
8157 MB System RAM (Score:
155)
- RAM Speed: 3887 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score:
215)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 50665518
- Integer
Operations/Second: 129824022
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second:
730061
Graphics Tests (Score: 33)
- 3D Frames Per
Second: 112
Hardware Tests (Score: 26)
- Primary
Partition Capacity: 298 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 76 MB/sGraphics score went down 33, but CPU Test sped up by 2 and RAM test 1 faster for net reduction of 30 in NovaBench score.
Wonder if something else running on Rosie's computer that reduced CPU availability for benchmark (possibly slow all the time - e.g. aggressive anti-virus scanning).
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Ron Corbett said:
Secondly, the Toshiba Hardware test scored 27 while my Asus only 19 (both are 7200PPM). Would not a SSD increase the score and if so increase performance some? I thought I did my research before buying, but this is not adding up.
I think what confuses us is the thought that bench scores will automatically Translate to better performance where Logos is concerned. Nova-bench rates on a scale designed to analyze the overall computing experience. They see a need for large storage capacity. They score big for a massive HD whereas Logos only benefits from the GBs it takes to store the software and resources. ( as demonstrated by your 2 drives, The larger one scores better, even though the write speed is much slower.) In my case, I upgraded to an 80GB SSD from a 640GB 7200 drive. The startup time of Logos was reduced from 10-12 sec. to 4 sec. and searches showed massive improvement. However, the Nova-Bench score only increased from 1354 to 1382. It simply does not reflect the actual gains the SSD provided. ( I still have the 640 GB drive for storage, But Nova-Bench only reads the primary drive ) On the other hand, the note taking issue is still intermittent. I firmly believe it is an issue that no amount of computer speed will resolve.
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Thanks Abi Gail,
As I said, I expected greater gains in speed with this purchase, but it has not "blown me away" as I had hoped. Sometime ahead, I will try the SSD. In Window's Performance Information test, it is the weakest performer - 5.9 with other components ranging from 7.1 to 7.4 (RAM). I am also going to look into the overclocking possibilities on my CPU. It may be overcompensating for some activities that do not help me with Logos. [the computer IS for Logos , after all
] I do have a turbo button that automatically boosts CPU power, but I don't know how often I can use it and I don't know for how long. Maybe I can run in turbo mode all the time? I'll probably need to make a call to ASUS. but thanks for your sharing your experience with the differences the drive made fo you.0 -
Yes...the windows rating for the Primary drive increased from 5.9 to 7.8 Now the score is held down by the ram and processor...both at 7.5
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Ron Corbett said:
I am also going to look into the overclocking possibilities on my CPU.
That would be my last resort. The heat and power consumption are increased dramatically. I would suggest monitoring the CPU usage. Mine rarely maxes out the stock speed. I don't see the benefits overcoming the pitfalls.
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NovaBench Score: 424
21/12/2010 11:04:48 PM
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Intel Core2 6320 1.86GHz @ 1866 MHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
2047 MB System RAM (Score: 105)
- RAM Speed: 3501 MB/s
CPU Tests (Score: 192)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 49994904
- Integer Operations/Second: 108653760
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 628868
Graphics Tests (Score: 105)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 328
Hardware Tests (Score: 22)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 466 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 35 MB/sI found this thread very interesting and am grateful for the link to Nova Bench. I am looking at upgrading this computer as it is now several (about 3 or 4) years old and thought the information from the benchmark test will help me to compare the specifications with a new machine.
This desktop was built by a local computer store. It doesn't seem to have any problems running Logos and the specs were better than I expected for its age (almost geriatric in computer terms). I may be able to hold out for a while longer before having to invest in a new computer.
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I'm wondering if a Novabench score of about 400 is the minimum needed to run Logos 4.
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Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9
Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1
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