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  • ASUNDER
    ASUNDER Member Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    I haven't bothered tracking it with WireShark, but that might prove insightful.

    See my post again, but this time don't pretend that you don't know what my issue is.

  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member, MVP Posts: 1,610

    My question was genuine, but perhaps it would be easier to follow if your comments stayed more on point.

  • ASUNDER
    ASUNDER Member Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    The second attempt, I've got it down to about a half hour on a fifty page ebook.

    'Section Breaks' I think is the fix to my page break issue. But the table of contents, I don't know how that works; if it's embedded metadata or a pdf or sidecar metada, or is just proprietary to MS Word. Because MS Word just uses the header styles to make its own internal links to build a 'Table Of Contents'. But many PDF's from tech companies come with a table of contents with their PDF manuals, so I'm not sure yet. You can export to PDF straight from Word (save-as), which seems to work fine.

    So since we give FaithLife money to save us time, and contrary to that purpose, this wastes time, where should I send the invoice?

    At 0.5 hours per book x 1,200 books. An industry standard data entry wage of $20/hr = $12,000 USD.
    Will that be credit or debit?

  • Bernhard
    Bernhard Member Posts: 727 ✭✭✭

    We all understand your feelings and I even share some of your thoughts. But we are living in this world where things are as they are. Logos has not come up with this system. They cannot change it without losing their contracts with most publishers. Is that what you want? Are you doing the same complaining at Amazon or whatever other big eBook retailer you get your books that you are not buying from Logos? (I am aware that there are some places that sell eBooks in standard formats without DRM, but you will never find books there from major publishing houses). Maybe it's time for the "prayer of serenity"… ;-)

    About page breaks: That's strange. Word usually saves a PDF as you see it on the screen, including the page breaks. Try a different PDF viewer to see if there is a problem in Foxit. If that doesn't help, tell us how exactly you add the page breaks in Word.

    As for the table of contents: See this page for help: https://superuser.com/questions/1810319/saving-a-word-document-as-pdf-but-with-bookmarks

    If that does not help, describe the problem a bit more.

    configuring headers to work with it, somewhat destroying the original fonts

    To use the fonts in the exported file for the heading styles, right-click the heading style, then "Update…to match selection"

  • Donovan R. Palmer
    Donovan R. Palmer Member, MVP Posts: 2,886
    edited March 5

    I doubt I will sway any opinions here, but please allow me to share my point of view. 

    I am heavily invested in Logos and have consistently purchased additional resources since 2002. Long ago, I determined that the advantages of digital resources far outweighed the safety of paper books. Practically speaking, digital resources were the only means by which I could maintain a personal library, as I work internationally and am always on the move.

    The issue of future-proofing is a valid concern that Bob Pritchett has addressed on several occasions. During one of our discussions, he explored the potential scenarios of what could happen if Logos or its future intellectual property ceased to exist. For those interested, those message threads still exist somewhere here on the forum, and I don't want to delve into his thoughts beyond this one point:

    Logos has committed to providing me free and 'forever' access to the resources I purchased licenses for. What assurance do I have? 

    First, I genuinely believe Logos is behind this marketing claim. Having been a customer for so long, and despite management changes, their mission has been serious and consistent. This commitment is because they want to see people use their software to study the Bible.

    Second, Logos' customer base is large enough to become an ‘industry standard, ' so with each passing year, the scope of their market foundation increases. This bolsters my confidence that someone, somewhere, will cater to that customer base if Logos ceases to exist

    Since none of us knows the future, the question is: What if I am wrong? If all else fails, my backup plan is to run Logos in a virtual machine on the latest possible operating system, using the most recent version available at the time of Logo's demise. Since we can currently run operating systems from as far back as the 1980s, I believe that if Logos fails towards the end of my life, I can keep it going for as long as I need it. (Some BibleWorks users still run that software, even though they are long out of business)

    Now, that raises the question of my children and grandchildren inheriting my library. This is something I can't fully future-proof with any technology. If I am genuinely concerned about an inheritance, I need to shift all my purchases to physical books. The next question is whether my grandchildren will use it much, considering that many of my resources will be dated. It will undoubtedly be a great reference library, but how much would they realistically sift through it?

    Everyone’s circumstances are different. You must weigh the costs and benefits and make an informed decision.  So far, Logos has been a solid bet, and as far as technology goes, this is the best solution in town. I am not going to go back to thumbing through paper books manually, so every day is a wonderful day to have access to this software.

  • ASUNDER
    ASUNDER Member Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    like I said, they bought themselves some trolling.
    If they are going to rob me of the best library I now have and ever will have, then I think a little trolling is in order, if nothing else. The same who provided this library also denies me of it, ironically.
    I'm still waiting on that paycheque in the mail. 😐

    They will lose contracts with their publishers? I could say, "if you can't do business ethically then you can't do business."
    That's probably not wrong, but is pretty harsh. "We will suffer loss if we xyz" is the "a girl's gotta eat" justification. But God says the prostitute's steps lead down to hell. And that David never saw the righteous beg for bread. So this begs the question as to why Christian publishing houses are ok with and require dystopian orwellian digital content locking practices? When did the Christian start valuing profit over morals? When he isn't wise enough to properly assess the value of the pearl of great price, that's when.

    Again, lets be clear that I'm grateful for what I have. But let's always hope for better things, from glory to glory.
    This is the only thing I have against FaithLife. I have many suggestions for software improvements, but that is minor. This locking of content is really bad.

    Let's just say people are lucky I'm not in charge. It would be the death penalty until companies started to realize they can't do unethical business practices under my watch. God would have a lot more grace for them than I would, that's for sure. For punishment doesn't keep law and order, but the fear thereof.

    The death penalty? Tell me what is the right to self defense law in most states when someone invades your home, with intent to steal. ? Ya that's what I thought.

    Thank you for the further technical helps. I will follow up with that.

    Good post.

    I would also not have access to this calibre of library without Logos; same as most people.
    Blessings be to them for this provision.

    What assurance do we have with the promise of free and forever access? None. Zero.
    Absolutely zero promise. We can't even promise that FaithLife or Logos will exist tommorrow.
    But I can promise something. That the paper book sitting right beside me can't be taken from me, no matter what happens to FaithLife, the internet, my computer, America, the power grid. And the two digital books I've exported can't either. Someone has to invade my house and take it from me, and good luck with that.

    This is the level of protection we need to ensure. The air gapping level. That a physical person must visit us in person to make changes to our library. Why? Because of the nature of this content. It is the most helpful and also the most hated content in the world. It has the most support and the most opposition. We can't be at the mercy of whoever is currently in power, to uphold this promise of forever. That is foolishness. Here today and gone tomorrow. Governments and authorities change hands all the time. That assassins bullet, a one inch difference in vector and all our internet conversations would be different right now. We can't trust the stability of these things whatsoever. But we can take our library off line for safe keeping.

    Although I think passing down these books to your children is stretching it.
    I don't think a digital copy of something should be allowed to more than one person; just as a software copy is only allowed for one computer.

    I'm not sure though, that doesn't sound right. I should think about that.

  • Famille Thevoz
    Famille Thevoz Member Posts: 120 ✭✭

    Note that you can backup your resources and related licenses. They are contained in the Logos data folder.
    (E.g. on a Mac : <home>/Library/Application Support/Logos4/Data/<random name>/…

    The resources files are located in a Resources folder, and the licenses are contained in LicenseManager/Licenses.dat.
    (I'm not sure though if the licenses contained within Licenses.dat are valid forever or need to be refreshed periodically).

    Of course, you need the Logos software to actually make use of them. But you have the data, resources and licenses, and you can backup them.