Search Questions

Floyd Johnson

I enter the following Bible search and get no results:

      (god OR lord) NEAR love*

But if I enter the following search, I get the expected list:

     god NEAR love*

I get the results I desire by using this search:

     (god NEAR love*) OR (lord NEAR love*)

What am I doing wrong - why does my original search not work?

Todd Phillips

You can't use logical statements as terms in a NEAR phrase (or a WITHIN phrase).

You can use a comma list instead:

 (god,lord) NEAR love*

Or you can use the logical elements (OR and AND) outside of the NEAR phrase:

(god NEAR love*) OR (lord NEAR love*)

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/201093#Comment_201093

Todd Phillips said:

You can't use logical statements as terms in a NEAR phrase.

Is this just NEAR or is it any of the proximity operators?

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/201094#Comment_201094

Floyd Johnson said:

Todd Phillips said:

You can't use logical statements as terms in a NEAR phrase.

Is this just NEAR or is it any of the proximity operators?

Any.

Mark Smith

Take a closer look at using parentheses in searches and proximity operators here: http://wiki.logos.com/Detailed_Search_Help#Proximity_Operators

I believe what you want to search for is (god, lord) NEAR love*

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/201097#Comment_201097

Mark A. Smith said:

Take a closer look at using parentheses in searches and proximity operators here: http://wiki.logos.com/Detailed_Search_Help#Proximity_Operators

I believe what you want to search for is (god, lord) NEAR love*

This is what I did to get the results I desired.  I made a change to the wiki to explain this at the main search entry page:

 

4. (Proximity) BEFORE, AFTER, WITHIN, NEAR

eg. Jesus BEFORE Christ, Jesus NEAR Christ, Jesus WITHIN 4 Words Christ

Note: You can’t use logical statements as part of a search that uses a proximity operator.
          You can use a comma list instead:

                   (god,lord) NEAR love*

          Or you can use the logical elements (OR and AND) outside of a phrase:

                   (god NEAR love*) OR (lord NEAR love*)

Did I get this right?

 

 

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/201102#Comment_201102

Floyd Johnson said:

Did I get this right?

I see what you were attempting and edited your change!

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/201093#Comment_201093

Todd Phillips said:

You can't use logical statements as terms in a NEAR phrase (or a WITHIN phrase).

You can use a comma list instead:

 (god,lord) NEAR love*

Or you can use the logical elements (OR and AND) outside of the NEAR phrase:

(god NEAR love*) OR (lord NEAR love*)

Is there a way to use lists to get to something like this:

        (birth ANDNOT "new birth") NEAR "second advent"

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/202301#Comment_202301

Floyd Johnson said:

Is there a way to use lists to get to something like this:

Not in L4. You have to use  (birth NEAR "second advent")  ANDNOT ("new birth" NEAR "second advent")

Libronix used the tilde prefix. Thus (birth*, ~birthday) produces all words starting with "birth" but not "birthday".