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No chapters and verses

MJ. Smith

I would like to have three options when I copy a text:

1) retain chapter and verse as currently implemented

2) remove chapter and verse notation and display as a single block of text

3) remove chapter and verse notation and display each sentence as a separate line - using punctuation as sentence delimiters

This would help both in personal Bible study and in the creation of lesson plans.

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Francis

MJ, do you refer to copying text from Bibles or from other resources? If this concerns copying from Bibles, the "Copy Bible Verses" applet in the tray offers style customization. If not, are you referring to other versified resources? Can you clarify or provide an example please?

Blessings,

Francis

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/21336#Comment_21336

MJ, do you refer to copying text from Bibles or from other resources?

I am refering to copying text from Bibles. Perhaps I should have stated it in terms of wanting more style options:

1) a single block of text (i.e. "simple paragraphs" without the verse superscripts)

2) sentences on separate lines (i.e. similar to one verse per line but using sentences rather than verses - sentences determined by puncuation)

So for the opening of Ephesians, I want:

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are in Ephesus and are faithful in Christ Jesus: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, just as he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him in love. He destined us for adoption as his children through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace that he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his gracethat he lavished on us. With all wisdom and insight he has made known to us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure that he set forth in Christ,as a plan for the fullness of time, to gather up all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth. In Christ we have also obtained an inheritance, having been destined according to the purpose of him who accomplishes all things according to his counsel and will, so that we, who were the first to set our hope on Christ, might live for the praise of his glory. In him you also, when you had heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and had believed in him, were marked with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit; this is the pledge of our inheritance toward redemption as God’s own people, to the praise of his glory.

And I want:

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are in Ephesus and are faithful in Christ Jesus: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Blessed
be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in
Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, just as he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him in love.

He destined us for adoption as his children through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace that he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.

In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his gracethat he lavished on us.

With all wisdom and insight he has made known to us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure that he set forth in Christ,as a plan for the fullness of time, to gather up all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

In Christ we have also obtained an inheritance, having been destined according to the purpose of him who accomplishes all things according to his counsel and will, so that we, who were the first to set our hope on Christ, might live for the praise of his glory.

In
him you also, when you had heard the word of truth, the gospel of your
salvation, and had believed in him, were marked with the seal of the
promised Holy Spirit; this is the pledge of our inheritance toward redemption as God’s own people, to the praise of his glory.

I will admit to being a rabid hater of chapter and verse for anything other than a citation - I much prefer pericope and sentence for any study or devotion. So I like worksheets for markup to omit chapter and verse boundaries, so that participants look at the actual linguistic/logical divisions of the text without being swayed by verse divisions. The examples that drove me nuts as a kid were when a contemporary translation changed the sequence of phrases and thus changed the verse citation. You ended up with a sentence that had 2 verse numbers beside each other at the beginning ... and as a kid I hadn't yet learned to live with ambiguity.

Paul Golder

I would like to have three options when I copy a text:

Hi MJ,

Follow these steps to create a new Copy Bible Verses style that will copy and paste text the way you want it:

   1. Open the Copy Bible Verses dialog (click on the black Bible icon on the right side of the Windows Taskbar, by the clock).
   2. In the Copy Bible Verses dialog, click on the Customize button.
   3. In the Manage Styles dialog, click on the New button.
   4. In the New Style dialog, click into the Name field and type a name for your new style, such as "No Verse Numbers" or "No Paragraphs."

From here you can set the preferences you would prefer. To have your style apply to copied text, make sure that the style you want is selected in the Copy Bible Verses dialog, ( this will remain your default even if the tool is closed ) then you just have to select the Bible text you want to copy and then after right clicking, select "copy to clipboard" instead of just "copy", Libronx will use what ever citation style you have chosen (or created) in the "Copy Bible Verses" tool. It also works with non-Bible resources by right clicking and choosing "Selected Text: "..." > Copy", instead of just "copy".

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/21349#Comment_21349

Thank you - yes this does give the paragraph format. But I think the sentence format is still a manual effort.

Paul Golder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/21358#Comment_21358

Thank you - yes this does give the paragraph format. But I think the sentence format is still a manual effort.

Your right, the 3 options are Verse / Paragraph / Passage. I wonder if Libronix is even able to recognize sentence divisions...

One thing you could always do is copy the text as an unformatted passage, and then use a small macro (or just use find and replace) in your word processor to replace all periods with a period followed by a paragraph mark. That would separate all of the sentences semi-automatically.