recent Dutch Bible translations please?

A lot of my colleague pastors would be helped out a lot if Logos is willing to carry the most recent Dutch Bible translations. The latest translation available now is from 1951. We have had at least five more recent translations since then.

Is it possible to open a request somewhere on the site?

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Luuk Dondorp

A lot of my colleague pastors would be helped out a lot if Logos is willing to carry the most recent Dutch Bible translations.

Yes, this will be great.

In the full SESB http://www.logos.com/product/5181/stuttgart-electronic-study-bible these dutch translations are available:

Dutch Bibles

NBG-vertaling 1951
Staten Vertaling
De Nieuwe Bijbelvertaling
Willibrordvertaling
Groot Nieuws Bijbel

It would be nice to be able to buy these seperately.

It is too expensive to buy the complete SESB just to obtain these dutch bibles. I already have the NBG1951 and the Statenvertaling in Logos format.

And I would - really - like to add the new "Herziene Statenvertaling", which was published in last december.

Tobias Lampert

You could have a look on SESB 3.0, which (besides the Statenvertaling and 1951's Bijbel) contains

Groot Nieuws Bijbel (2006)
De Nieuwe Bijbelvertaling (2004)
Willibrordvertaling (1995)

Purchasing SESB might be too expensive as long as you want only the Dutch translations - just wanted to point out that there actually are some for Logos 4.

HJ. van der Wal

And I would - really - like to add the new "Herziene Statenvertaling", which was published in last december.

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HJ. van der Wal

A lot of my colleague pastors would be helped out a lot if Logos is willing to carry the most recent Dutch Bible translations. The latest translation available now is from 1951. We have had at least five more recent translations since then.

Is it possible to open a request somewhere on the site?

Similar questions have been asked with regard to german/french/.... Bibles, see for example this thread: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/25063.aspx

Perhaps the best way would be to contact the Nederlands Bijbelgenootschap.

Welkom trouwens op het forum!

Luuk Dondorp

[Perhaps the best way would be to contact the Nederlands Bijbelgenootschap.

Today I have sent an email to Henk Sennema (CEO ? at the Jongbloed Publishers of the "Herziene Statenvertaling" ) asking about the possibilities. I will keep you posted about this.

Jan Wolsheimer

Great. I think that's possible for sure. Point is if the Logos crew is willing to invest in non-English bibles.

Erik & Willeke van der Woude

I like the logos software the way it is now, and I want to upgrade with only the latest Dutch translations, without having to buy an expensive CD-rom, filled with additional commentaries - there is already so much to go with in the basic package. How can we go about this?! I guess a lot of theology students and ministers in the Netherlands would purchase Logos, (and thus interesting for logos when you look at an increased market) if it would only include the NBV, Groot Nieuws, Herziene Statenvertaling, Het Boek, enz.

Should we take action by undertaking an online petition? lol!

It's great that there are more of you who really want to see this happening!

HansK

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Please also add the Herziene Voorhoevevertaling ("Telos vertaling"). I have this translation and the HSV already in Accordance (as an user tool).

Hans

Pieter Wiltjer

Logos, can you pls. make these titles available as indivivual titles, or make a Dutch Bibles pack for all your Dutch users!

Jo Decaesteker

Hi, I'm looking into buying Logos (for personal study, I'm not a pastor or student, just a simple architect - :-D ) and also hoping for (more) Dutch Bible translations.

Logos looks really great...

For those of you having one or more Dutch Bibles in Logos: how well does the search go? Are names, things, places, word search and stuff like that also connected/integrated (in)to the Dutch translations? Can you type/use the Dutch names of the books/people/... for searching or do you have to switch to English Bible translations? Do interlinear Bibles synch with a chosen passage in Dutch Bible? ...

I'd just like to know how well Dutch translations are integrated into the whole concept of Logos. I guess they are integrated quite well, otherwise, it wouldn't be very useful, would it? Any thoughts about this?

Cheers and thanks!

Jo D.

Belgium

Hans van den Herik

I had some contacts last week with the editors of the Herziene Statenvertaling. They are willing to publish it in Logos and are seriously looking for ways to get that done.

I also wrote about it to the Nederlands BijbelGenootschap, but they didn't give any response.

I also would like to have the Naardense Bijbel. Perhaps publishing can also be asked from the publishers.

I further would like to have Dutch Bible tags recognized for PBB, like it was possible in Logos 3.

Hans

Patrick Rietveld

Logos, can you pls. make these titles available as indivivual titles, or make a Dutch Bibles pack for all your Dutch users!

Not only Dutch Bibles, but also Dutch commentaries, like CNT, COT. Maybe we should contact Kok and other Dutch publishers.

I am not sure how the search engine works, but I can imagine that a (growing) list of Dutch-English keywords could be made, so that resources in both languages can be searched for in one go.

Patrick

Simon

I would love to have the HSV, de Naardense vertaling and Dutch commentaries, like CNT, COT and some public domain commentaries like Dachsels and de Kanttekeningen in Logos.

NB.Mick

Hi Jo,

it seems nobody answered your questions so far. I'm not Dutch, but German - but I think Logos works much alike for these languages.

how well does the search go? Are names, things, places, word search and stuff like that also connected/integrated (in)to the Dutch translations? Can you type/use the Dutch names of the books/people/... for searching or do you have to switch to English Bible translations?

Actually Logos searches what is there, but doesn't translate. So if I search the German-language spelling of something, I will only get hits in resources that use this spelling (e.g. Petrus as opposed to Peter). Since I have next to none German resources (save some bibles), I will use Logos completely in English, and I think I will continue to do so, even if SESB 4.0 (announced for Q4 this year) should contain a German language user interface

I'd just like to know how well Dutch translations are integrated into the whole concept of Logos.

. So, if you want to have results from your Dutch resources, search for Dutch expressions, if you want results from the multitude of English language resources, you'll need to search for English expressions. However, you won't need to "switch to another bible translation", as searching can be invoked independent from open resources and configured to address those parts of your library where you want the results to be.

Do interlinear Bibles synch with a chosen passage in Dutch Bible?

. Yes. You may have a number of bibles scroll along (that's what you mean with sync, I suppose) .

I'd just like to know how well Dutch translations are integrated into the whole concept of Logos.

Well, that's something everybody has to answer depending on their usage experience. I'm not a scholar or pastor, but use Logos for my armchair-theologian studies. These I conduct - as far as PC usage is concerned - nearly exclusively in English language. Since commentaries, monographs and everything is in English, I usually don't even bother to open up the German language bible - this would be different for someone who prepares sermons or teaches a small group. I know of other people who use the localized German version (L3 has it) for studying the original languages in connection with German bibles and don't even bother for English.

Hope this helps,

Mick

Emmanuel Oliveiro

Having Dutch translations available for Logos would be great!

I always have to go back to webbased Bibles now if I am preparing dutch sermons.

Patrick Rietveld

I was wondering if someone already converted ds. C. den Boer's commentaries on Paul's letters?

http://www.dsdenboer.refoweb.nl/Exegetica.asp

I am converting them to Docx files which takes some time, so if someone already did, just tell please.

Wijnand

Hello.

Maybe it's an good idea to make the HSV available by hand. If we do this with a lot of dutch people it wouldn't be too much work. We can make it as an docx-file for Logos and also in raw text file so we can use it to compile in Bibleworks. Or am I not aloud to name the product of a competitive program? [;)]

Ang hello Hans...........that's a long time ago I heard from you.

I wrote at least three times to Jongbloed Publishers but they really don't know if and when there will be a module for Logos or Bibleworks.

Greetings, Wijnand

Simon

Hello.

Maybe it's an good idea to make the HSV available by hand. If we do this with a lot of dutch people it wouldn't be too much work. We can make it as an docx-file for Logos and also in raw text file so we can use it to compile in Bibleworks. Or am I not aloud to name the product of a competitive program?

Ang hello Hans...........that's a long time ago I heard from you.

I wrote at least three times to Jongbloed Publishers but they really don't know if and when there will be a module for Logos or Bibleworks.

Greetings, Wijnand

Creating a docx file for the HSV isn't that difficult. I already have it. But permission of the publisher is needed to distribute it in a legal way. I believe that christians should respect copyright laws, so I'm not going to distribute the docx-file I've created unless someone secures a written permission from Jongbloed for me.

Wijnand

Hello Simon.

You're right about the copyrights. I didn't mean to use it for illegal distribution. But as far I know it isn't illegal to copy, paste and compile for personal use. And that's the only thing I wanted. But maybe it won't be too long before the HSV becomes available for Logos as I read in the post from AJ. WE can wait for that.

I only asked Jongbloed for the Bibleworks version, not for Logos.

Wijnand

HansK

Yes Wijnand H., that's me [:D]

Hans