niv2011 for purchase?
I have the Original Language package which has served me well, but no NIV or TNIV. When will the new NIV be available for purchase? If I add the old ones to my library would I also get the updated NIV? The only reason I haven't added either to my library is that it comes as an $80 bundle and I haven't been able to justify the expense. However I would add it, if the new NIV was also included.
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I suggest you email sales@logos.com to get an answer to that question. None of us users will know the answer.
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Certainly, but:
1. more than mere users check and respond to questions in the forum.
2. Answers to questions on the forum benefit more than the original poster.
I ask it here because I am doubtful that I am the only one who has this question, and some of the users may have already asked it and have information to share.
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From my understanding now from another thread, if you have a copy of the NIV then the upgrade will be free.
Bohuslav Wojnar said:You might be interested in reading the following thread: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/28219.aspx
It says NIV 2011 will be part of that free upgrade.
Every blessing
Alan
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Alan Macgregor said:
From my understanding now from another thread, if you have a copy of the NIV then the upgrade will be free.
Bohuslav Wojnar said:You might be interested in reading the following thread: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/28219.aspx
It says NIV 2011 will be part of that free upgrade.
Every blessing
Hi Alan
If I understand that thread correctly it says that if you have a base package which includes the NIV you get a free upgrade.
So If you have a package which doesn't include it - such as Home or Original Languages (as the OP) - and have bought the NIV separately then I don't think you qualify for the free upgrade.
It would be good to get confirmation of this one way or another.
Graham
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Alan,
As I understood Phil's post, this applies to the base packages that include the NIV, but it doesn't actually say you get a free upgrade to an NIV you have purchased seperately a la carte directly from Logos. Hence my dilemma
James
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It seems to me that only Logos can answer this question. Why don't you call up Logos, find out and post your findings?
Ted
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James Matichuk said:
Alan,
As I understood Phil's post, this applies to the base packages that include the NIV, but it doesn't actually say you get a free upgrade to an NIV you have purchased seperately a la carte directly from Logos. Hence my dilemma
James
You're quite right. Sorry to be so dense; I didn't see that distinction.
Given that situation, I think the best thing would to be to seek clarification from Logos. If Logos and Zondervan have decided that NIV 2011 should be made available FOC for those who have NIV in their base package, then I would take the view that providing you have the original, then the upgrade should be free, whether it is part of a package or not.
Every blessing
Alan
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I really have no idea as I am not a Logos Employee but from my thoughts.......unless you get the "old" NIV in a package deal......I am wondering if Zondervan will even allow purchasing of this book. Of course I could be very wrong and there will be no problems getting this "older" book. I just have the thought that only the New 2011 NIV will be available for purchase....in electronic format.
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James Matichuk said:
Certainly, but:
1. more than mere users check and respond to questions in the forum.
2. Answers to questions on the forum benefit more than the original poster.
True enough, I should have said "and post your answer here for the benefit of others." I've rarely seen Logos employees responding to things on the General forum. Developers do tend to answer questions on the Logos 4 and Mac forums, and Melissa and others chime in on bug reports and Bob and Dan respond to complaints about Logos. But the Sales people who have the answers to this kind of question rarely make an appearance on the forums; they are too busy actually processing orders.
I don't need the answer as I have NIV through a package, but I will email my sales rep and ask and put the question to rest. All this speculation isn't helping anyone.
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Well, I asked Phil Gons instead of my sales rep and haven't gotten an answer yet, but I guess it's sort of a moot point. The answer is: You'll know if you got it. Users have already been reporting that the 2011 NIV has downloaded for them. So if you already owned the 1984 NIV but not through a base package, restart Logos and see if it says you've got new updates available, and see if it downloads the new one for you.
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The NIV 2011 is a completely separate resource from the NIV 1984.
The NIV 2011 is included in Bible Study Library (KF), Leader's Library (KF), Scholar's Library (KF), Scholar's Library: Silver (KF), Scholar's Library: Gold (KF), Scholar's Library: Platinum (KF), and Porftolio (KF). If you own one of these base packages, it will download soon if it hasn't already.
If you have an equivalent LE base package, you can crossgrade to the new corresponding KF base package for free. The NIV 2011 is among the new resources you'll get for free as part of the crossgrade to KF for the base packages listed above, and it's the only scenario where you would get the NIV 2011 for free.
It will be available shortly as an individual download for purchase.
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Thanks Kent,
I did email sales as well but nobody had responded as of yet. So it looks like the forums were faster!
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James Matichuk said:
Thanks Kent,
I did email sales as well but nobody had responded as of yet...
That's because the one you e-mailed gave Kent the task of responding to your question so they wouldn't have to do it...[:P]
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Douglas Alvarenga said:James Matichuk said:
Thanks Kent,
I did email sales as well but nobody had responded as of yet...
That's because the one you e-mailed gave Kent the task of responding to your question so they wouldn't have to do it...
Or maybe Phil Gons, whom I emailed, gave Kent that task...
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Graham Criddle said:
If I understand that thread correctly it says that if you have a base package which includes the NIV you get a free upgrade.
The new NIV automatically downloaded for me last night (Jan 12, 2011). The "old" NIV in my library is now tagged NIV84.
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Daniel Bender said:
The new NIV automatically downloaded for me last night (Jan 12, 2011). The "old" NIV in my library is now tagged NIV84.
Same for me. [:D]
My NIV - Anglicised which is the oldest Logos resource that I have (along with NA26 and BHS) did not upgrade. I wonder if it is going to be produced. I hope it will be because the US English text feels a bit - well - less comfortable - with its less familiar spelling and vocabulary.
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Alan Macgregor said:
My NIV - Anglicised which is the oldest Logos resource that I have (along with NA26 and BHS) did not upgrade. I wonder if it is going to be produced. I hope it will be because the US English text feels a bit - well - less comfortable - with its less familiar spelling and vocabulary.
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Alan Macgregor said:Daniel Bender said:
The new NIV automatically downloaded for me last night (Jan 12, 2011). The "old" NIV in my library is now tagged NIV84.
Same for me.
My NIV - Anglicised which is the oldest Logos resource that I have (along with NA26 and BHS) did not upgrade. I wonder if it is going to be produced. I hope it will be because the US English text feels a bit - well - less comfortable - with its less familiar spelling and vocabulary.
I hope they will produce one, but will presumably be a Hodder production and I do not expect it to be a free upgrade (unfortunately) as it isn;t part of a base package. Nice if it was though ...
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Reluctantly, I'd be prepared to pay for it, if only to ensure it gets produced.
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So will it automatically download? I updated by Scholar's edition (QC) PC version to the mac version. I hid my NIV 84 resource a while ago, so I never see the old NIV. I thought it would show up under NIV replacing the 84 version. but when I removed it from the Hidden Resources by clicking on "x" it never showed up on Hidden or normal resources. Help??
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Stephen Liu said:
So will it automatically download? I updated by Scholar's edition (QC) PC version to the mac version. I hid my NIV 84 resource a while ago, so I never see the old NIV. I thought it would show up under NIV replacing the 84 version. but when I removed it from the Hidden Resources by clicking on "x" it never showed up on Hidden or normal resources. Help??
You must update your base package to the new KF base packages. If you have an LE base package the crossgrade will be free. See: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/28219.aspx?PageIndex=1
Having hidden the NIV 84 wouldn't affect the NIV 2011, but you must have a license for it first.
Prov. 15:23
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Great! Getting the free upgrade to KF packages worked!
So will it be viewable on my iPad?
I noticed I never saw TNIV nor NIV on the iPad.Thanks,
Steve
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Stephen Liu said:
So will it be viewable on my iPad?
I noticed I never saw TNIV nor NIV on the iPad.I'm positive that Logos wants to deliver it... but they need to obtain permission which they haven't been able to do so yet.
Prov. 15:23
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