Suggestion please: Homiletic Commentary
Good day and thank you so long for your help.
I want to buy a homiletic commentary on the whole Bible. I had a look at this series but don't know if the price is per volume or for the whole series.
http://www.logos.com/product/8523/preachers-homiletic-commentary
I will really appreciate your suggestions.
Sincere Regards,
Deon
Johannesburg, South Africa
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Deon Holtzhausen said:
Good day and thank you so long for your help.
I want to buy a homiletic commentary on the whole Bible. I had a look at this series but don't know if the price is per volume or for the whole series.
http://www.logos.com/product/8523/preachers-homiletic-commentary
I will really appreciate your suggestions.
Sincere Regards,
Deon
The price will be for the entire series. One thing to consider -- it's OLD. Whether or not it suits your purpose isn't for me to say, but it certainly won't be the more recent scholarship, nor will it be very highly regarded scholastically (and not simply because of its date).
george
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Also note that this series is in Community Pricing which is a special program Logos has for certain out-of-print works. It means people bid on it for what they're willing to pay, and Logos will not invest in the work to produce it unless a sufficient number of people bid enough on it to cover the cost of production. As you can see, currently it's got a long way to go, and this could take years. If you need something sooner, I'd look at some of the newer, albeit pricier, commentary sets.
Here are the commentary sets I've tagged as "homiletic" in my Library. You'll need to look up each of these on the Logos website to see the description and decide which one fits your purposes and budget best.
See also http://www.bestcommentaries.com for commentary reviews. And there are some commentary surveys available in Logos which give ratings from various theological standpoints:
Commentaries for Biblical Expositors: An annotated Bibliography of Selected Works (Jim Rosscup)
Appendix of How to Read the Bible for All Its Worth (Gordon Fee & Douglas Stuart)
New Testament Commentary Survey (D.A. Carson)
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Okay, again I give up. What do you mean by homiletic commentary? Is it synonymous with application commentary? I thought I'd figured out that the bulk of Logos users gave expository sermons rather than homilies.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
Okay, again I give up. What do you mean by homiletic commentary? Is it synonymous with application commentary? I thought I'd figured out that the bulk of Logos users gave expository sermons rather than homilies.
Homiletic is a synonym for expository. Homiletics is the field taught in seminaries that has to do with sermon preparation.
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In an earlier thread we had agreed that sermon and homily were not interchangeable terms. But my question was for the term "homiletic commentary." I fail to see the common element in the series you have labeled "homiletic commentary" and thought that your definition of the group might shine light on your understanding of a sermon or homily.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
In an earlier thread we had agreed
that sermon and homily were not interchangeable terms. But my question
was for the term "homiletic commentary." I fail to see the common
element in the series you have labeled "homiletic commentary" and
thought that your definition of the group might shine light on your
understanding of a sermon or homily.I can't find that earlier thread.
I confess that I do not know for sure what the OP meant by "homiletic commentary" other than that he thought that CP series he linked to was one (it's title so indicates), and its description included something about "expository preaching and ... sermon preparation" so and I jumped to conclusions. If my answer was confusing to you, I apologize.
As for the "common element" among these in this list, don't get too hung up on that. The common element is they all have the tag HomComm in my library. I did my tagging initially from Morris Proctor's categorization
of commentaries. He calls this category Pastoral/Exegetical. I added "Homiletical" to that in my Collection
name for them, mostly because I chose the tag name HomComm instead of PastComm or ExeComm, as it sounded better I guess. And Logos doesn't have a way to change tag names. So I just kept it. Don't read too much into it. I figured Homiletical was just
another sort of synonym for those other terms; namely commentaries that pastors
would use when preparing to preach on a Scripture text.I've attempted to keep up adding the categorization labels
that Morris suggested as I've acquired new commentaries, but haven't been
all that careful about it. There's a lot of overlap and sometimes it's
hard to determine whether a commentary series is more of a language or
critical commentary or a homiletical/exegetical commentary or an
application commentary. There are many in this list that I wouldn't use myself anyway but happen to be in my library because they're part of Portfolio or came with the Christmas Master Collection. I have a PG that has the commentaries divided out in the different sections by their categorization, but I almost never pay attention to that division. I usually go for my highest prioritized one or two commentaries and ignore the rest.0 -
I've got the print version of this work in 31 volumes (bound slightly differently) published by Baker. Yes, it is somewhat old but it is really helpful and suggestive. It is something I use. To have it in Logos will be really good.
- Each chapter has opening Critical and Exegetical Notes.
- Then each Paragraph has the Main Homiletics of the Paragraph outlined with headings and application.
- This is followed by Outlines and Comments on Verses.
Here's a scan of a couple of pages to show what I mean.
At around $40 (though I'm in at $80) this is very good value. I do hope it moves into production soon, because it represents seriously good value for money.
Every blessing
Alan
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Rosie Perera said:
Homiletic is a synonym for expository
At least in Roman Catholic seminaries, there is a subtle difference. Since Origen's time homily has meant, and still means, a commentary on some part of Sacred Scripture (hence why the term is most used related to the Mass), the aim being to explain the literal, and evolve the spiritual meaning of the Sacred Text. The latter, as a rule, is the more important; but if, as in the case of Origen, more attention be paid to the former, the homily will be called expository. Homily and homiletics is really a broader term than expository.
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Homiletic here means sermonic. To paraphrase it could well be entitled the commentary to assist preachers with preparing and structuring their sermons. Some of the volumes (e.g. Genesis) have suggestions for sermon illustrations and suggestive comments on the verses.
It is a bit like a forerunner to Zondervan's NIV Application Commentary series.
Every blessing
Alan
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Deon
As I've said in another couple of posts, this is a good series but is is only on community pricing (CP) just now and has a long way to go before it reaches production. A more modern series available now is the Zondervan NIV Application Commentary series for Old Testament Prophets and New Testament. (Just click the titles to go to the linked pages.)
Every blessing
Alan
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Rosie Perera said:
I figured Homiletical was just
another sort of synonym for those other terms; namely commentaries that pastors
would use when preparing to preach on a Scripture text.Thanks for the explanation, Rosie.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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When I first answered this question I was looking for the old Multi-volume Commentaries Product Guide which Logos used to have on their website. But it's gone. The link to it now just gives you a list of the commentary sets. However today someone on another thread pointed to a link to that old page which is archived in the web archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20080324020653/http://www.logos.com/commentaries/multivolume
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