SUGGESTION: Baptist resources
These may be hidden in some bundle but ...
As an outsider, I am aware of 15-20 Baptist Catechism, most of which are public domain. I would love to have them in Logos.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I agree there are two really good resources containing a number of catechisms/covenants/confessions. John A Broadus "Baptist Confessions, Covenants, and Catechisms" and Lumpkin's, Baptist Confessions of faith. They would both be very useful in Logos format.
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Thanks for the references, John.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
These may be hidden in some bundle but ...
As an outsider, I am aware of 15-20 Baptist Catechism, most of which are public domain. I would love to have them in Logos.
Since many Baptist try to disassociate from anything remotely similar to Catholicism you will not find many works covering their own teachings under the term "catechism." They tend to use the term "distinctives."
I am aware of one Logos collection that has historical references that encompass what would amount to catechisms.
Classic Baptist Books - Roger Williams Heritage Archive
I can't share much insight as to the contents. It is on my short list for purchase. Many of the titles are real classics among the Independent Baptists. I believe Broadman & Holman will give better insight for the Southern and General Baptist conventions.
The term Baptist covers a wide spectrum. Under the "Baptist" label you will find adherents to Calvinism, Arminianism, Free-Will, Eternal Security, Independents, "one universal church", charismatic, separatism, ecuminicalism, and just about any other "-ism" you can imagine. Some practice open communion,others "close" or "closed" communion. The only commonality I have found in every Baptist group I have ever studied is They will all tell you they are not Protestants.
edit: One more commonality: All the Baptists appear to practice baptism by immersion
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Matthew C Jones said:
I have that collection. The word catechism appears 175 times in 99 articles in 37 resources.
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Matthew C Jones said:
Since many Baptist try to disassociate from anything remotely similar to Catholicism you will not find many works covering their own teachings under the term "catechism." They tend to use the term "distinctives."
That's what I used to think - from a single site I come up with a number - and it doesn't even include the Piper adaptation:
BAPTIST CATECHISMS
A CATECHISM FOR BABES, OR LITTLE ONES, 1652
A SHORT CATECHISM ABOUT BAPTISM, 1659
INSTRUCTION FOR THE IGNORANT, BUNYAN'S CATECHISM, 1675
BENJAMIN KEACH'S CATECHISM, 1677
THE ORTHODOX CATECHISM, 1680
A CATECHISM FOR BOYS AND GIRLS
A CATECHISM OR INSTRUCTIONS FOR CHILDREN AND YOUTH
THE PHILADELPHIA BAPTIST CATECHISM
THE BAPTIST CATECHISM, CHARLESTON ASSOCIATION CATECHISM, 1813
THE BAPTIST SCRIPTURAL CATECHISM, 1850
A PURITAN CATECHISM, 1855
A CATECHISM FOR LITTLE CHILDREN, 1864
COMPEND OF CHRISTIAN DOCTRINES HELD BY BAPTISTS: IN CATECHISM, 1866
A CATECHISM OF BIBLE TEACHING, 1892
A BRIEF CATECHISM OF BIBLE DOCTRINEYou are right that one rarely hears a Baptist today use the term. And I've thrown up my hands trying to follow the distinctions between the various factions. But now I know another term to look for them under. Thanks. I am the proud possessor of a Northern Free-Will Baptist Hymnal (pre-civil war) which a Free-will Baptist minister kept trying to buy off me. He'd sold his copy when he had kids in college. If we ever get the PBB features, I might be willing to share it with Baptists ...[:P]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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David P. Moore said:Matthew C Jones said:
I have that collection. The word catechism appears 175 times in 99 articles in 37 resources.
Now that is funny - dear old Roger, buddy of Anne Marbury Hutchinson. Hum, my niece is Nonnie Marbury M., my aunt was Martha Marbury S. ...guess who the great-great-great-some number of times grandmother is? Yup, Anne Marbury Hutchinson. My great aunt worked very hard to get the ban from the Boston Colony revoked - late 1940's or early 50's Anne was free to go back to Boston. And, yes, I think we were trouble makers ... there's that little thing going on in Salem in which great-great etc. Rebecca Norse (or Nurse) got caught up in ... and there is great ...grandpa John Alden who didn't get Priscilla (Miles Standish did) ... and that's just my maternal grandmother's side[:P]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
You are right that one rarely hears a Baptist today use the term. And I've thrown up my hands trying to follow the distinctions between the various factions.
I read the Handbook of Denominations to try and find a group I most desired to worship with and had to trow up my hands in amazement over the 31+ flavors enumerated. I've become ever so slightly ecumenical because not even the members of my Sunday School class are in complete agreement with each other. I am OK with that now. (I do know they claim the name of Jesus and they will see more clearly in that day. [;)] )
There is one practice specific to Free-Will Baptists (and maybe others) that I find intriguing. I believe there is at least a practical benefit to foot-washing. How can a person wash another's feet if there is hatred, dissension, envy, lust, pride or other such sins present? Just a thought.
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