A "Family License" would be really cool…

While pondering whether I should purchase The Harvard Classics and Fiction Collection (71 vols.) for myself, it occurred to me that it would also be a potentially good thing for my children, even the two that are out of the house. Question is, are they interested? If I had money lying about my house like in the movie Blow, money wouldn't be an issue. As things sit—it is. I see family licenses mentioned in the archives without any movement on that front. Perhaps Logos could use an individual PD resource like The Harvard Classics to lure future business from its current customer base. I'm not sure which (if any) of my children would even be interested, but it would be nice to give them the option.

Speaking of things, is there any free Logos starter edition I can point people to?

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Rich DeRuiter

see family licenses mentioned in the archives without any movement on that front.

One of the biggest issues, as I understand it, is that the licensing with the publishers is related to the current Logos EULA, which licenses individuals. To change that, or offering an alternative (like a family license) would likely mean renegotiating with all those publishers. Not at all an easy task.

Speaking of things, is there any free Logos starter edition I can point people to?

Not that I'm aware of. However, there are a few packages that are fairly inexpensive sold by Logos publishing partners.

The best way to introduce others to Logos is to show them on your computer and let them take it for a test drive themselves. But, Logos is not a good platform for merely reading text (like the Harvard Classics series). There are simpler tools for that. Logos is a research tool, and that is where it stands apart from the competition. I would show it off as an extensive and powerful Bible study tool, that, by the way, can also be used for some general reading.

Friedrich

Michael, Hi! I am sorry my reply won't add links to help you (pressed for time right now [:O]), but here are a couple things:

No free starter. Logos does have relatively cheap base packages (www.logos.com) and any resource you buy will allow the engine to be downloaded, although unless you go for Scholar's level or above, not all the tools will be accessible or fully used (like the Exegetical Guide).
Bob Pritchett has been reluctant to deny that husbands/wives be able to share resources under the one license (or kids at home). Different users have different comfort levels with that. I know cases (Matthew Jones, MVP on the forums, eg) where husband and wife each own their own edition for hard core use, customization, etc.
Kids not living at home would (generally) hardly qualify for any "family license" no matter the software. They might like your gift of the classics, or whatever.
Nelson sometimes has cheap packages--I picked one up for about $50 at a Morris Procter (the official trainer of Logos) seminar. something like 200 resources: bibles, studies, dictionaries, etc. Was a good deal.
Nelson has had much cheaper ones, too., but watch out--some of the adds make it seem like you will get a whole collection, when actually you only get a few volumes.

Glad you like Logos and are thinking how you can introduce others to it.

Michael Anda

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/228850#Comment_228850

I see where there'd be difficulty with copyrighted material. I was thinking more in terms of public domain titles. As for Logos evangelism, most times my contact is over the internet.

Friedrich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/228892#Comment_228892

I see where there'd be difficulty with copyrighted material. I was thinking more in terms of public domain titles. As for Logos evangelism, most times my contact is over the internret.

the thing with the PD titles is partly that Logos has added tagging and better searching and things that all make the Logos experience so wonderful. They put much more work into the PD books than those who essentially just offer text.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/228847#Comment_228847

Hi Michael and Richard,

Speaking of things, is there any free Logos starter edition I can point people to?

Not that I'm aware of.

Actually, there is: http://www.logos.com/4ways shows four ideas to aquire Logos 4, the last one is the free "engine only". Then there are some free ressources from Logos, Nelson and (if you own an ESV bible) from crossway: all nicely summarized on this page http://wiki.logos.com/Free_Logos_Books

This will allow anybody to test-drive Logos 4 (and Logos 3/Libronix) for free - but be aware that there is a certain "addictive potential" associated with doing so

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/228916#Comment_228916

This will allow anybody to test-drive Logos 4 (and Logos 3/Libronix) for free - but be aware that there is a certain "addictive potential" associated with doing so

Your post has good info. But the full Logos 4 experience can not be enjoyed with just the free L4search engine. One of the best resources new to L4 is the "Biblical People, Places & Things" which is not included with the free search engine only program. (I think it is a $70 upgrade.)

I am introducing my mother-in-law to Logos this week by installing a few Libronix based boxed products and will do the basic upgrade to Logos 4 including the Biblical People, Places & Things. My hope is she will enjoy it so much she will expand her library with some of the other 10,000 resources. She would resist any bigger start-up .

Friedrich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/228916#Comment_228916

Hi Michael and Richard,

Speaking of things, is there any free Logos starter edition I can point people to?

Not that I'm aware of.

Actually, there is: http://www.logos.com/4ways shows four ideas to aquire Logos 4, the last one is the free "engine only". Then there are some free ressources from Logos, Nelson and (if you own an ESV bible) from crossway: all nicely summarized on this page http://wiki.logos.com/Free_Logos_Books

This will allow anybody to test-drive Logos 4 (and Logos 3/Libronix) for free - but be aware that there is a certain "addictive potential" associated with doing so

you're gonna need to drop "newbie" from your name, all at the ripe ol' age of 3 posts. I command it.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/228930#Comment_228930

Your post has good info. But the full Logos 4 experience can not be enjoyed with just the free L4search engine. One of the best resources new to L4 is the "Biblical People, Places & Things" which is not included with the free search engine only program. (I think it is a $70 upgrade.)

Yup, this is the "minimal crossgrade" update which were the first $70 I spent on Logos. It contains a lot of various resources. They are very worthwile - but I wanted to share that there really is a way to have a look at it for free and see some of it's functionality. For me, the "addictive potential" kicked in after that and I spent the $70 on the crossgrade and then some more and I know there will be even more money for Logos down the road.

OT: I believe I haven't seen the full Logos 4 experience yet, must free up some time and watch all these video instruction...

Mick

Matthew C Jones

While pondering whether I should purchase The Harvard Classics and Fiction Collection (71 vols.) for myself, it occurred to me that it would also be a potentially good thing for my children, even the two that are out of the house.

I placed my Pre-Pub order for The Harvard Classics and Fiction Collection on April 18th 2008. I have always thought it would be a good gift for friends and family and was disappointed the Pre-Pub program does not allow multiple orders. (I locked it in a bit cheaper than the current $129.)

As already mentioned, Bob Pritchett has posted on the subject of spouses sharing one license at home. His application is more generous than industry standards. But since everybody is related to somebody, there has to be some limitation to how far a license can be used. I suggest you go ahead and get yourself The Harvard Classics & Fiction now at the Pre-Pub price. You can show it to family to get their feedback on it. When they see how nice it is, petition Logos to sell you several gift copies at the same savings. OR if you have lots of money, buy several licenses. There is a 30 refund provision if they don't like it. Though they will. [;)]

Robert Pavich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/228962#Comment_228962

I'll tell you what I did...

I wanted my sister in law to experience Logos 4....so I bought the lowest package..it was relatively cheap...

And if she didn't like it...we had a whole 30 days to "return" it.

it's really a good deal...

We ended up calling and upgrading to the "Bible Study" Package....and even that was cheap...

So, if you want to test...you can do so without fear, and if you pick a level that you find out doesn't agree with you....you can change it anytime before 30 days...

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/228850#Comment_228850

I know cases (Matthew Jones, MVP on the forums, eg) where husband and wife each own their own edition for hard core use, customization, etc.

We have dual licenses in my home for a variety of reasons:

Personalization without interfering with each other (notes, collections, prioritizations)
Frequently we are using Logos simultaneously
I can drink my coffee without staining her Logos books. (When Philip and Thomas joke around, I have been known to exhale coffee.) [C]
As a loving husband I want to spare my wife the pain of watching the resource count grow. Somebody told her the books usually aren't free.
I am a Logos "addict" and never met a resource I didn't want. My license has grown to 5455 resources. I am vulnerable because of my many areas of interest. However, my wife has small interest in archeology and even less in historical theology.

I gratefully accept Bob Pritchett's generosity and understand his posts on the matter. But it is well worth the price to keep things separated.

Kevin Becker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/228979#Comment_228979

As a loving husband I want to spare my wife the pain of watching the resource count grow. Somebody told her the books usually aren't free.

Careful, she's been known to read the forum from time to time. [:)]

Michael Anda

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/228895#Comment_228895

I was just referring to the copyright issues that PD titles would avoid.

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