Missing Indexes in Wallace Greek Grammar
Daniel Wallace's Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics is missing all of the very helpful topic, Greek word, and Scripture indexes that are found in the print edition. These are very important for using this book for learning the language and research. If you want to see the places where Wallace discusses a particular verse, you cannot search for it in Logos. Even though it has Bible references that are hyperlinked, you cannot search for a passage with <Bible = 1 John 2:28> and reliably find all of the references.
For a few years, I have been encouraging my Greek students to buy the Logos edition rather than the print edition, but I may have to reconsider this decision. I hope this index will be added to this important and widely used textbook.
I would also like to see the Bible search feature work properly in this type of book. So if I search for <Bible = 1 John 2:28> it would find passages marked with a list of references (e.g. 1 John 1:9; 2:28) as well as a range of references (1 John 2:20-39) and even a single version, which is clear in context (2:28).
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Harry Hahne said:
I would also like to see the Bible search feature work properly in this type of book. So if I search for <Bible = 1 John 2:28> it would find passages marked with a list of references (e.g. 1 John 1:9; 2:28) as well as a range of references (1 John 2:20-39) and even a single version, which is clear in context (2:28).
This concern is overcome by my answer here http://community.logos.com/forums/p/31453/233673.aspx#233673
Prov. 15:23
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Harry Hahne said:
Daniel Wallace's Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics is missing all of the very helpful topic, Greek word, and Scripture indexes that are found in the print edition. These are very important for using this book for learning the language and research. If you want to see the places where Wallace discusses a particular verse, you cannot search for it in Logos. Even though it has Bible references that are hyperlinked, you cannot search for a passage with <Bible = 1 John 2:28> and reliably find all of the references.
For a few years, I have been encouraging my Greek students to buy the Logos edition rather than the print edition, but I may have to reconsider this decision. I hope this index will be added to this important and widely used textbook.
I would also like to see the Bible search feature work properly in this type of book. So if I search for <Bible = 1 John 2:28> it would find passages marked with a list of references (e.g. 1 John 1:9; 2:28) as well as a range of references (1 John 2:20-39) and even a single version, which is clear in context (2:28).
As regards finding passages, there are two ways to handle that (assuming you know how he specifies a passage):
- Use <cltrl-f> and enter the passage
- Use the basic search function and enter the passage
The first method finds the desired reference one at a time while the second gives a list from which you can choose. Greek words can be searched similarly to #2 but has the problem that you need to know the precise form he gives. E.g., if you are looking for the Greek word περιτομή, you will get no result for the lemma, but if you search for the genitive form περιτομῆς you will find 5 references.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:
Use <cltrl-f> and enter the passage
This will not always work for Scripture references, because many books do not always include the book name. For example, there are references listed as 1 John 1:9; 2:28 or simply 2:28. Also sometimes they appear as a range, such as 2:28-3:3.
George Somsel said:Use the basic search function and enter the passage
I tried this, but it does not always find all of the Bible references.
Further, a word search is not the same as a topic search. The indexes indexes are selected entries where the topic or Greek word is discussed. So they take you right to the relevant place in the book without a lot of "noise. So as useful as a full text search is, a good index is still very valuable. Try this in something like Louw-Nida and you will see that that Greek word index takes you only to the articles on that subject and not every place where the word is mentioned in passing.
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The "Cited By" feature on the tools menu can be used to concurrently find whatever you are looking at in your Greek text. It should be set to "Follow" on the panel menu (although you may have to drag and drop it from the Tools menu to have it as a proper panel). I've set up a Greek Grammar collection which is automatically being followed by the Cited By tool. Awesome.
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Agreed with Harry. It is a mistake to exclude the indexes from Wallace in the Logos edition. Wallace's grammatical discussion on theologically important passages should be one of the first books to come up (e.g., the extended discussion on Phil 2:6). I second the plea to include the indexes in an update on Wallace's grammar.
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