Flashcards for Hebrew vocabulary (Seow)
I am new at using Logos and thought there might be a feature where users could drill Hebrew vocabulary words that follow lessons in a certain grammar such as the popular one by Seow.
Ideas?
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Good news/bad news. Libronix (Logos3) had this capability (and included Seow's word lists). Unfortunately, this feature is not yet (to my knowledge) available in Logos4. Maybe you know someone who has Libronix.
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Tim Deahl said:
Unfortunately, this feature is not yet (to my knowledge) available in Logos4.
According to http://www.logos.com/4/missingfeatures it is planned for Q1/2012
[quote]Maybe you know someone who has Libronix.
Alternatively, he could install, the Libronix system on his PC - it's free and it coexists with Logos 4, giving the possibility to use word lists and vocabulary lists. The Installer is found here: http://www.logos.com/support/downloads/ldls/newuser
However, the Libronix features are somewhat limited, as they allow to generate flashcards and print them, but there is no full-fledged learning environment (such as Anki and other software provide) which will give questions, ask vocabulary based on prior successful answers, has statistics etc.
Mick
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Thanks to the both of you.
I did install the Libronix system on my PC, but vocab cards are not functional yet
I am referring to http://www.logos.com/training/vocabularylists for training, and point 5 specifically which has to do with using a pre-defined set such as Seow
I downloaded the Seow file and placed it where the directions indicate, but when I use File/Open I do not see "Vocabulary List" as an option.
Disclosure time: I am a teacher of Biblical Hebrew using Seow's grammar. It expects students to learn over 800 vocab words in one year, which is heavy for many. So I am trying to generate a list of all the vocab words in the grammar together with their frequency. This is the key part.
The alternative is using frequency data from BibleWorks8 and placing it into a helpful vocab flashcard excel sheet done by David Reimer.
The result of this would be the ability to pare down the required vocabulary based on real data, the frequency.
thanks for your help...and if you have any ideas about how I can get Libronix to open that Seow set, I'd be grateful
Shalom
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Dr. Bob,
just to make sure: which base package are you using (if one at all?) Unless this is "Original Languages Pack" or "Scholars" and above, you will need to buy the vocabulary list feature separately (as I did), to make this work. This is the http://www.logos.com/product/1667/original-languages-addin
I see that you found the vocabulary list for your grammar resource (most probably here http://www.logos.com/support/lbs/vocabularylists#download )
Some more information is found in this Blog-Post http://blog.logos.com/2007/06/free_vocab_lists/ and an instruction for doing a list with words and frequency is found here: http://blog.logos.com/2006/12/howto_make_a_vo/ If it doesn't work, there are a number of users on this forum with Libronix experience to guide you through.
Hope this helps,
Mick
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Thanks Mick,
I do own Scholar's Silver in the Logos 4 version, so I'm not that keen on paying $20 for an original language addin to Libronix, and I'm not sure that when I export the Seow list that the words will be correlated with their frequency anyway.If I was sure it would work, then maybe I'd get the addin.
Too bad that Logos did not include the flashcard capability when they rolled out Logos 4. I see the process you outline, and thanks for the excellent directions and links.
Good to know that Logos users like to help one another, so I really appreciate your responses
At this point, I think I'll get more certain results if I just use the BibleWorks frequency data and match it to the words in Seow that I already have.
blessings,
Bob
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Dr. Bob said:
I am new at using Logos and thought there might be a feature where users could drill Hebrew vocabulary words that follow lessons in a certain grammar such as the popular one by Seow.
Ideas?
Please go to uservoice and vote for it: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/509803-make-an-intelligent-flash-card-program-for-vocab-?ref=title
This is currently the 4th highest ranking suggestion and the highest ranked suggestion that isn't currently being implemented. More votes expressing the users interest in such a feature will hopefully encourage Logos to prioritize such a feature.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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In the meantime, you could use Ken Penner's Flash Pro program which is keyed to Seow's vocabulary. He was a fellow student with me at my seminary so I it from him directly. I don't think he's updated it in years but hopefully it still works on recent versions of Windows. There's a free trial period. I'm suprised it's so pricey to register, though ($50). I guess it was priced back in the days before much free open-source software was available. Personally, I wouldn't pay that much for flash-card software, but I know Ken, so I figure I ought to plug his program. It was pretty good, if I recall. Haven't used it recently.
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Here is a spreadsheet you find useful, and it's free. It is what I am modifying with frequency counts.
http://www.lionelwindsor.net/2009/06/18/seow-hebrew-vocabulary-resources-from-david-reimer/
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I use Anki (http://ankisrs.net/) which is cross platform so I can sync my decks between my PC and my iPhone. There are hundreds of shared decks online, with quite a few Hebrew and Greek ones. I uploaded one for BBH and BBG myself. I just downloaded one for Ross' book.
Features from the web site
Review anywhere. Anki lets you study on your own computer, online, on your cell phone or other portable devices like an iPod touch.
Synchronization features let you keep your information across multiple computers.
Shared decks allow you to divide work between friends, and let teachers push material to many students at once.
Intelligent scheduler based on the SuperMemo SM2 algorithm.
Flexible fact/card model that allows you to generate multiple views of information, and input information in the format you wish. You're not limited to predefined styles.
Fully extensible, with a large number of plugins already available.
Optimized for speed, and will handle reviewing decks of 100,000+ cards with no problems.
Clean, user-friendly interface.
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Supermemo is the best flash card software I know of. I used it for Hebrew and use it for my drug doses (pharmacology) and anatomy & physiology reviews all the time right now. Very smart system that works well....if Logos could make use of the algorithm or make one like it, Logos would become a superpowerful tool for vocabulary and Bible verse memorization only aiding in the fruitfulness of our study.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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James Macleod said:
I use Anki (http://ankisrs.net/) which is cross platform so I can sync my decks between my PC and my iPhone.
Intelligent scheduler based on the SuperMemo SM2 algorithm.
Wow thank you for the info on this...looking forward to giving it a run with my Supermemo stuff
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Dr. Bob said:
I do own Scholar's Silver in the Logos 4 version, so I'm not that keen on paying $20 for an original language addin to Libronix,
Bob,
of course you need to find the solution that works best for you (and now a lot of people have advised flashcard apps to you) - and again, it might be that the Libronix vocabulary lists are less functional than desired. However: since you own Scholar's silver, this feature should work for you and you have all that is needed to generate these lists.
Did you synchronize your licence between L3 and L4, so that the Libronix engine knows the features and ressources you are entitled to? Verify in Tools/account management that Libronix uses the same customer ID (usually your email-address) that is your Logos-ID for L4, then click Next to Synchronize Licences.
File/Open should then show you Vocabulary Lists as an available type, and if the Seow file is in the right location, you'll be able to open it.
As an aside - if you plan to do this manually based on Excel spreadsheets, you might try to open the Vocabulary List file from Excel, since these are XML files, you might open these in a spreadsheet view as well.
Hope this helps, and all the best for your courses
Mick
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