Indexing woes…
I am reinstalling Logos for the umpteenth time on my Asus brand notebook that's been in for repair 6 times in its 15 months of life. Yes, I am switching over to a Mac as soon as I am able to. Thank you for asking. 
Where was I? Oh yeah, I have now been.having trouble getting the Logos index up and running. Two days ago my resources were downloaded and I began indexing at 3 PM. I awoke yesterday at 9 AM to find the process 59% complete. My computer at some point asked to restart itself because of the automatic downloads it received during the night. I agreed, forgetting about my Logos process momentarily. Anyhoo, Logos, or the powers that be at Microsoft or Asus decided to start the uncompleted index over again a couple of times yesterday. Last night I went to bed 60% complete. Today I awoke to an index around 25% complete. I checked and no automatic system activity occurred in the wee hours.
Which all leads to my question, How can I fix this and get on with my life?
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I think Logos should Index everything for us Before we get it
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Douglas -
The indexing is done on our side because our index is made up of the resources we own. It would be pretty worthless to receive search query results for resources you don't have.
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Michael,
The fact is that you may be overheating your processor with Indexing or you may be getting updates that try to install automatically.
On my older computer I had to put it in a cool room with a fan blowing over it overnight and let it index. Just for insurance I'd also disconnect from the Internet during that time. Once you are set for this, restart Logos which should re-trigger indexing. If it doesn't type Rebuild Index in the Command Bar and hit enter.
This is one of the problems that led me to recently replace my older laptop.
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Bridgeport, CT USA
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Hello Alabama
Logos already has a List of each users Resources as well. They could have New resources "pre" indexed into our Library and then downloaded as a patch. I believe it could work. (then the only thing that would possibly hinder us, would be the speed of our internet connection for the Download - i.e." Reinstallations":)
This may be a feature that would have to be developed for L5, but none-the-less, the Idea starts here
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Is it possible to just copy my index from my desktop PC over to this laptop?
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Michael Anda said:
Is it possible to just copy my index from my desktop PC over to this laptop?
Yes,
You can copy the Logos 4 folder over. See Method 1 here: http://wiki.logos.com/Quick_Installation_onto_multiple_computers
Prov. 15:23
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Douglas said:
Hello Alabama
Logos already has a List of each users Resources as well. They could have New resources "pre" indexed into our Library and then downloaded as a patch. I believe it could work. (then the only thing that would possibly hinder us, would be the speed of our internet connection for the Download - i.e." Reinstallations":)
This may be a feature that would have to be developed for L5, but none-the-less, the Idea starts here
Do you think this is a Possibility somehow?
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I doubt it.
While I'm certain that this would be technically possible I imagine that the the server time needed to generate custom indexes for every customer and the near-doubling of bandwidth would be cost prohibitive.
I prefer to have my machine index my books for me.
Prov. 15:23
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Kevin Becker said:
You can copy the Logos 4 folder over. See Method 1 here: http://wiki.logos.com/Quick_Installation_onto_multiple_computers
Thanks, Kevin. I MIGHT be too lazy for that. [8-|]
Actually, my transfer device isn't big enough. 8GB USB device. Can the contents be split then rejoined?
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Kevin Becker said:
I prefer to have my machine index my books for me.
I do believe you are being modest
I shall hope for the Possibility Logos Designed their Software, I think 20 hrs or more for a first time user with a large library and a moderate machine, is a little excessive. Maybe Logos should ask the Lord for help
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It's worth a try, I've never done it, I would just make certain you don't start Logos until it's all transfered.
Prov. 15:23
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Kevin Becker said:
It's worth a try, I've never done it, I would just make certain you don't start Logos until it's all transfered.
The Newly "Pre" Indexed Present could be appropriately Applied at Next Reboot" (after Finished) allowing us to use our present Library Index in the Meantime.
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At the 50 hr mark I am now at 2% complete. The indexing restarted again it would appear.
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Douglas said:
They could have New resources "pre" indexed into our Library and then downloaded as a patch. I believe it could work.
It could work. And it did - that's the Logos 3 method. But you're either left with (a) thousands of separate resources, or (b) needing to merge the new index into the existing index. (a) makes searching too slow, and (b) doesn't save enough time to make the extra bandwidth worth it (merging takes longer than indexing).
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Michael Anda said:
At the 50 hr mark I am now at 2% complete. The indexing restarted again it would appear.
Michael. There's clearly a problem with your PC or Windows installation. We're going to need indexing logs to get to the bottom of it, I'm afraid.
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I talked with Logos support a few moments ago and they told me to issue the Rebuild Index command to see if that does the trick.
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Michael Anda said:
I talked with Logos support a few moments ago and they told me to issue the Rebuild Index command to see if that does the trick.
It's worth a try, but turn logging on first so that if it fails we might be able to find out why.
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Hopefully I engaged the logging feature. I reopened Logos with Ctrl key depressed. I also chose to work offline.
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Whoomp! (There It Is) [8-|]
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I have Platinum plus some more. Why not allow the user to download the base packages with the index already built in. Extend this for every book, and when the resource is downloaded, the machine only has to merge indexes, rather than build them from scratch.
On an i5 machine, 64bit software and 4 GB of ram, 5400 rpm Hdd, it took about 4 hours to build an index for 2400 resources. What if each book shipped with the index already built in. The users machine would finish everything much faster, the customer could go to work much sooner. Just my $0.02 worth.
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If you have 2,400 resources, your index will be approximately 3.5Gb. On an average connection that will take around 4 hours to download - so there'd be no time saving. And for those who have slow internet connection, or who bandwidth caps, they'd be significantly worse off.
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Lynden Williams said:
I have Platinum plus some more. Why not allow the user to download the base packages with the index already built in. Extend this for every book, and when the resource is downloaded, the machine only has to merge indexes, rather than build them from scratch.
This has been much debated, especially from the first betas. Over time there has been a considerable improvement in indexing speed and the size of resource updates (with patching). And in Australia the cost of internet bandwidth is such that 50 GB/month is now feasible, but other countries are not as fortunate. Many users have also migrated to the dual and quad core processors that were envisaged for L4. My old desktop would take 5.5 hrs to Index 600 resources and I can now index 1000 in 1.2 hrs, less time than it would take to download 2.3 GB of Index for a re-install.
I take your point about an index for updated resources and only having to merge them as an index for one resource could be 1.5 MB and take about 4 minutes to merge into my library. However, 2 bibles and 2 non-bible resources would require (2 x 1.5 + 2 x 3.5) 10 MB of indexes and 4 merges i.e. 16 minutes, whilst a conventional index could be complete in 4.5 - 7 minutes (one resource can take a few seconds to a minute to be indexed). I haven't done a statistical comparison of crashes but many occur in the merge stage, so the proposed method is not guaranteed to be free of problems!
Dave
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