Fixing Install as Admin
If you run the Logos 4 installer as an administrator then you will not be able to run the automatic updates. Instead you will have to download and run the installer as an administrator for all future updates.
Until now.
Recently, for reason I don't understand, I accidentally installed Logos 4 as an Administrator on my laptop. Anyway, since I was a beta tester each additional update I had to download and install new beta builds manually. I knew it was a permissions issue but they looked fine. So, I went digging in the Advanced settings and found that installing as an administrator puts the ownership of the Logos 4 folder to Administrator instead of your regular user name. Changing the ownership back allows updates to process normally, without elevation.
Here's how to do it on Windows 7
Navigate to your Logos 4 folder (Remember the AppData folder is hidden). Right Click on it and select Properties.
Select the Security tab and click Advanced
Select the Owner tab and you will see this
Click the Edit Button
Select the user account you use Logos in and check the "Replace owner on subcontainers.." then click Ok
Voila! As far as I can tell this allows the updates to process normally.
To test it out I installed the latest stable build as an admin on an extra user account on a computer and then tried to run the beta updater (it failed). I made this change and then ran updater normally; it worked. The next time my laptop goes through a in-program update I'll update if I have any problems but I don't think I will.
I would appreciate a Logos dev to pipe up if there's any issues with this that I don't know about.
Prov. 15:23
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Kevin,
This is great info!
It probably would be useful if you added a link to this post on this section of the wiki
On Windows, Why doesn’t Logos 4 work when I install it as Administrator?
EDIT: on a new section with a link to this post???
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steve clark said:
It probably would be useful if you added a link to this post on this section of the wiki
On Windows, Why doesn’t Logos 4 work when I install it as Administrator?
I was planning to migrate this info to the wiki after a time if no wrinkles show up.
The question on the wiki is misleading. Logos works fine if you install it as an Admin, it's just the update process that doesn't work normally if you install it that way.
Prov. 15:23
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Great work Kevin!
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Excellent Kevin! I looked around for this once, I was sure it was the permissions.
I'll try it out on the next upgrade!
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Kevin Becker said:
Voila! As far as I can tell this allows the updates to process normally.
That is most interesting and I'm keen to hear from Logos. The Windows Help says:
"By default, the owner is the entity that created the object. The owner can
always change permissions on an object, even when the owner is denied all access
to the object." i.e. it would appear that the setup program can change permissions provided the (Window's) User is the Owner.Dave
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As an FYI I tested this when upgrading to 4.3 SR-1, here are my results.
On my laptop with Windows 7 x64, it worked perfectly! No more need to run the upgrade as Admin
However on my desktop, which runs Windows Server 2008 R2, it failed same way. I re-ran and ensured Logos folder and all sub folders had the proper owner, which I believe they already had.
I assume I am the only one in the Logos world running it on Windows Server [8-|], so I doubt anyone will figure this out. But if there are some thoughts, I am all ears!
Thanks for the work uncovering this!
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Interesting Dominick, I also was able to process the service release normally on Win 7 Home Prem. I wonder what is different about the server install. Was the error message the same when the install failed? There are some other tabs in the advanced security settings could any of those things be different than the standard workstation install?
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Kevin Becker said:
Interesting Dominick, I also was able to process the service release normally on Win 7 Home Prem. I wonder what is different about the server install. Was the error message the same when the install failed? There are some other tabs in the advanced security settings could any of those things be different than the standard workstation install?
I think the message was the same but I didn't write it down - I can do so the next update, or leave it un-upgraded to debug. From what I can see looking at the screens compared to the ones you posted, they look the same.
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Hi
Would you please add screen shots for Windows 8?
thanks!
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Windows 8 is a little different as Owner is not a tab, but click on Change if the owner isn't your Username in Advanced Security Settings
(can't insert screenshots at the moment).
Dave
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HOT diggity!!, someone found it and posted it.../bummer.
oh well life goes on....
I hope this helps you-know-who with there ADMIN/user problem...thanks for the post Kevin, and I agree with making it on the wiki...
R4m.
DISCLAIMER: What you do on YOUR computer is your doing.
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Dave Hooton said:
Windows 8 is a little different as Owner is not a tab, but click on Change if the owner isn't your Username in Advanced Security Settings
(can't insert screenshots at the moment).
And then what? Since it doesn't look the same nor are the options the same. Thanks for your help.
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Then enter your Windows Username, click Check Name to make sure it is valid and then click OK.
Click OK on the other boxes to exit.
Dave
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