Optimization
I haven't been very active in the forum lately, but it seems like the Mac app is pretty functional. At this point, I'd like to see some optimizations to make it run a bit quicker and smoother. I have good hardware and minimal demands on the program, but am still sometimes surprised at the beachballs, etc. That's not a complaint, just a wish that the direction at this point would focus on optimizing what's already there instead of building in the last 5%.
YMMV, of course.
Ben
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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I second this. Just made major purchase and software is slow, but usable other than three kernel panics and restarts, scrolling slow, search slow, spinning beachball and ( not related ), not much info to be found on setting up workspaces etc.
Optimizations should really be a primary task.
I know it's better than it was, but the reality is that it should be better.
Thanks,
Rusty+
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Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:
not much info to be found on setting up workspaces
Wiki Getting Started with Logos => Layouts section has tips, video and wiki links for layouts, including excellent unofficial video by Forum MVP Mark Barnes. Workspaces in Libronix 3 and Logos for Mac v1 were replaced by Layouts in Logos 4.
Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:Just made major purchase and software is slow, but usable other than three kernel panics and restarts, scrolling slow, search slow, spinning beachball
WIki Mac Troubleshooting => Kernel Panic , => Slow Performance and => Spinning Beach Ball sections may be helpful.
Wonder about memory usage since paging is one cause for spinning beachball (Activity Monitor can show Page Outs; restarting Mac resets Page Outs to 0).
To help dissipate heat for 27" iMac (avoid kernel panic from hardware malfunction), have a fan on low setting blowing air toward back of 27" iMac (slightly warm to touch vis noticeably warmer than room temperature without fan).
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Should not have to use external fan because of software.
R+
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Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:
Should not have to use external fan because of software.
R+
Charles,
Curious to know your computer specs. I too have a 27" iMac and haven't experienced the issues you have.
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macbook alum 2.4, 4gig ram.
Thanks for the wiki links.
No other software causes these issues on my mac.
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Logos just needs to work on these issues as has been suggested imho.
Thanks for the help,
R+
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Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:
Should not have to use external fan because of software.
Logos 4 is resource intensive on Mac & PC – benefits from fast processor, graphics, and disk along with adequate memory (i.e. newer hardware since Logos 4 being designed for use over 5 to 8 years). When Logos 4 is indexing, processor utilization can jump up for an extended time (hours), which generates more heat.
Depends on computer model and software usage whether external fan is helpful. Many laptop models (both Mac and PC) have heat dissipation issues, especially during intense use. External fan can be cheaper than fixing (replacing) hardware issues from heat damage.
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Understood,but does not change the fact the recommendation is valid, software should not cause damage to hardware. No other programs cause these issues and many actually do more work. Recommendation was that Logos should work on these optimization issues.
Blessings,
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Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:
Logos just needs to work on these issues as has been suggested imho.
Ben said:I haven't been very active in the forum lately, but it seems like the Mac app is pretty functional. At this point, I'd like to see some optimizations to make it run a bit quicker and smoother. I have good hardware and minimal demands on the program, but am still sometimes surprised at the beachballs, etc. That's not a complaint, just a wish that the direction at this point would focus on optimizing what's already there instead of building in the last 5%.
Logos User Voice # 1 ranked suggestion => Focus on Code/Performance Optimization "General program performance improvement (searching, loading, opening, etc) and optimization through optimizing code efficiency."
Thankful for Logos development improving performance while working on new features. Also can appreciate developer response: specifically, what needs improvement ? Granular suggestions are helpful and appreciated by Logos development => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/36249/271946.aspx#271946 and => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/36249/272173.aspx#272173
WIki Mac Troubleshooting => Slow Performance includes: "To help Logos development optimization efforts, please post video or repeatable steps on Logos 4 Mac (Stable) OR Mac Beta, which can include screen shot(s), timing observation(s), and logs (see How to Report Bugs in Logos 4 Mac)"
Thankful Logos 4.3 Beta development noticeably improved scrolling in Reverse Interlinear Bibles => Scrolling: Reverse Interlinear Bible, which can be very slow at times
Logos User Voice has many suggestions related to Logos 4 Mac:
# 1 => Focus on Code/Performance Optimization with 803 votes
# 2 => Rework notes function - in one or multiple phases with 770 votes
# 33 => Logos 4 Mac Enhancements with 77 votes
# 47 (tied) => Floating window layouts with 45 votes
# 49 (tied) => Improve Logos 4 Mac Feature Parity with PC with 44 votes
# 73 (tied) => add Mellel support for "Copy Bible Verses" with 24 votes
# 76 (tied) => Improve Logos 4 Mac Note Positioning with 22 votes
# 85 (tied) => Improve Logos 4 Menu Responsiveness with 17 votes
# 151 (tied) => Use the built-in Mac OS text-to-speech ability, with the computer reading all or selected text with 6 votes
# 168 (tied) => Please add Logos 4 Program Settings with 5 votes
# 187 (tied) => Translation Interlinear with 4 votes
# 187 (tied) => Make Text Comparison much more versatile with 4 votes
# 213 (tied) => text comparison with 3 votes
# 213 (tied) => home page text size with 3 votes
# 213 (tied) => Enable multitouch pinch-to-zoom on Logos4 Mac! with 3 votes with 3 votes
# 213 (tied) => Make the Mac Updater menu bar icon black with 3 votes
# 213 (tied) => Make the Mac app icon a little smaller with 3 votes
# 213 (tied) => Logos 4 Mac: Option + click on x cold close all windows and take you back to Home with 3 votes
# 213 (tied) => Float Panel needs a shortcut key in the Mac version of Logos 4 with 3 votes
Appears OS X Lion full screen and multi-finger gesturing (80 votes) is more desired than completing Logos 4 feature parity on Mac (44 votes), consistent with Logos 4.3 SR-2 usability. Thankful for many Logos 4 Mac improvements.
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