BUG: Large Text search misses entry in Tozer Topical Reader

This thread was in the Suggestions forum so it was probably missed, and I just checked and it still fails:

A search of Large Text in Tozer Topical Reader for Forgiveness fails to find #1028, while for example Regret is found.

See thread for discussion, but it's pretty easy to duplicate. There may be other problems with the Search fields in this resource.

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Ted Hans

I am finding that this is also true with Vyrso titles

NetworkGeek

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/295334#Comment_295334

I am finding that this is also true with Vyrso titles

I didn't think Vyrso titles had search fields like Large Text, do they?

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/295334#Comment_295334

I am finding that this is also true with Vyrso titles

Logos have no control over Vyrso ePub's, which are primarily intended for reading!.See http://community.logos.com/forums/p/35348/266888.aspx#266888

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/295361#Comment_295361

I didn't think Vyrso titles had search fields like Large Text, do they?

Large Text is created by the Indexer, based on font size, so it may be created for Vyrso books. You would have to check the Information page.

Melissa Snyder

It appears that it's failing to find the hits that are at the end of the headings in that book. In addition to the one Dominick cited, a Search of 'unsaved' fails to find the instance at the end of the #1029 heading, but does find it in the middle of the #1030 heading (and others). I will report this bug. Thanks.

Edit: I should add that the problem didn't occur when I checked several other topical resources.

Ted Hans

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/295365#Comment_295365

I didn't think Vyrso titles had search fields like Large Text, do they?

Large Text is created by the Indexer, based on font size, so it may be created for Vyrso books. You would have to check the Information page.

Okay this is confusing. The search field has Large Text but are you suggesting that it is there for nothing? Pardon my ignorance but what would be the point of that?

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/295728#Comment_295728

Okay this is confusing. The search field has Large Text but are you suggesting that it is there for nothing?

It means that there is Large Text, but the eye cannot detect instances that fail the criteria for Large Text; the source is not uniform in its application of font size to what appears to be "headings".

Ted Hans

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/295735#Comment_295735

It means that there is Large Text, but the eye cannot detect instances that fail the criteria for Large Text; the source is not uniform in its application of font size to what appears to be "headings".

Thanks Dave for the response. I will pretend that i have understood what you have written, what you mean[:$].

Melissa Snyder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/295739#Comment_295739

It means that there is Large Text, but the eye cannot detect instances that fail the criteria for Large Text; the source is not uniform in its application of font size to what appears to be "headings".

Thanks Dave for the response. I will pretend that i have understood what you have written, what you mean.

If it helps to make it a bit more clear, I was able to get a Large Text search hit for 'Apologetic' in the Section I heading "The Apologetic Task" but not in what appears to be large text below it, "The Task of Apologetics" (with "Match all word forms" selected). This is most likely due to the format of the source document, but I am getting clarification on that.

Ted Hans

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/295741#Comment_295741

If it helps to make it a bit more clear, I was able to get a Large Text search hit for 'Apologetic' in the Section I heading "The Apologetic Task" but not in what appears to be large text below it, "The Task of Apologetics" (with "Match all word forms" selected). This is most likely due to the format of the source document, but I am getting clarification on that.

Thanks Melissa, i get it now. What is strange is that on a few Vyrso books i am getting both result for Large Text.

This is most likely due to the format of the source document, but I am getting clarification on that.

Please do get some clarification on this. It will be helpful not only to me but to others.

Blessings

Tonya J Ross

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/295741#Comment_295741

This has been fixed, in Beta 8 I believe, and will be added to the final compiled list of 4.5 release notes.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/314222#Comment_314222

This has been fixed, in Beta 8 I believe

Tonya is referring to 4.5 Beta 8 which has yet to be released. I cannot test this in Beta 10 (latest beta) as I don't have any Vyrso books (nor Tozer).

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/314232#Comment_314232

I cannot test this in Beta 10 (latest beta) as I don't have any Vyrso books

But you could have such - even for free (and not all Vyrso books are Amish romances or self-help).

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/314237#Comment_314237

But you could have such - even for free

I wondered who would be first to bite[:)]

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/314240#Comment_314240

But you could have such - even for free

I wondered who would be first to bite

I took it hook, line & sinker - guess that makes me a Vyrso fan-boy? But then again it maybe just shows my careless posting, while others bit their tongues (or fingers) for ten minutes after your steilvorlage (deep forward pass in soccer)...

[:)]

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/295365#Comment_295365

Logos 4.5 Beta 10 can search large text in Vryso resources:

Note: clicking on a link to open a Large Text result goes to Chapter in Book, then have to scroll down (or find) Large Text within chapter.

Keep Smiling [:)]

Ted Hans

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/314222#Comment_314222

This has been fixed, in Beta 8 I believe, and will be added to the final compiled list of 4.5 release notes.

Many thanks Tonya

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/314430#Comment_314430

This has been fixed, in Beta 8 I believe, and will be added to the final compiled list of 4.5 release notes.

Did you note the veiled hint?

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/314350#Comment_314350

while others bit their tongues (or fingers) for ten minutes after your steilvorlage (deep forward pass in soccer)...

I hope it didn't catch you offside[:)]

Ted Hans

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/314596#Comment_314596

Did you note the veiled hint?

Thanks Dave, got it now [:)]

Kevin Byford (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/314371#Comment_314371

Logos 4.5 Beta 10 can search large text in Vryso resources:

Note: clicking on a link to open a Large Text result goes to Chapter in Book, then have to scroll down (or find) Large Text within chapter.

Keep Smiling

Thank you, I've written up a case for the Large Text search and sent it to our Development department.

Kevin Byford (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/316762#Comment_316762

Logos 4.5 Beta 10 can search large text in Vryso resources:

Note: clicking on a link to open a Large Text result goes to Chapter in Book, then have to scroll down (or find) Large Text within chapter.

Keep Smiling

Thank you, I've written up a case for the Large Text search and sent it to our Development department.

Turns out this is working fine - if you click on the Blue link it will take you to the top of the Chapter; if you click on the highlighted search terms in the results (Forgive, Worship, Morality) it should take you to the exact spot in the resource where that term exists. Is that working properly for you?

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/316770#Comment_316770

Turns out this is working fine - if you click on the Blue link it will take you to the top of the Chapter; if you click on the highlighted search terms in the results (Forgive, Worship, Morality) it should take you to the exact spot in the resource where that term exists. Is that working properly for you?

Thanks, verified using Logos 4.5 Beta 11.

Also learned to look carefully since one Large Text search result is a Book Title in a footnote.

Keep Smiling [:)]

NetworkGeek

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/295685#Comment_295685

It appears that it's failing to find the hits that are at the end of the headings in that book. In addition to the one Dominick cited, a Search of 'unsaved' fails to find the instance at the end of the #1029 heading, but does find it in the middle of the #1030 heading (and others). I will report this bug. Thanks.

Edit: I should add that the problem didn't occur when I checked several other topical resources.

Melissa and Tonya, this still appears to fail in 4.5 Was this fixed, it appears someone said it would be? (the origianl post where in Large Text for Tozer Topical Reader #1028 is not found)

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/330026#Comment_330026

Melissa and Tonya, this still appears to fail in 4.5 Was this fixed, it appears someone said it would be? (the origianl post where in Large Text for Tozer Topical Reader #1028 is not found)

Unfortunately, the fix doesn't take effect until affected resources are reindexed. I don't think the Tozer resource has been updated recently, so it probably hasn't been reindexed automatically. You will need to "rebuild index" to fix the Large Text searching. (I thought we had posted this limitation in the thread, but I can't find it now. I will update the release notes; sorry for the incomplete documentation on this fix.)

NetworkGeek

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/330201#Comment_330201

That's fine and no problem, thanks Bradley for the update and I am glad you were able to get this fix in!

Ted Hans

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/330201#Comment_330201

Unfortunately, the fix doesn't take effect until affected resources are reindexed. I don't think the Tozer resource has been updated recently, so it probably hasn't been reindexed automatically. You will need to "rebuild index" to fix the Large Text searching. (I thought we had posted this limitation in the thread, but I can't find it now. I will update the release notes; sorry for the incomplete documentation on this fix.)

I am hoping this also goes for Vyrso titles as well?