WHY can we not copy a word on the screen?

David Ames
David Ames Member Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

WHY can we not copy a word on the screen? 
Steps Taken: 
Open the KJV 1900  [The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version., Ga 2:16–17]

Open the Interlinear [Clicking the interlinear icon]

Reference GAL 2:16

Click on the word ‘justified’ in “man is not justified by the

In a study that I am doing I want to paste the Greek work here used [‘δικαιόω’]

So I move the mouse down into the interlinear section and highlight the Greek word
Something is wrong – it will not highlight [and therefore I cannot copy it with crtl-c]
OK – program limitation.  So I Right Click it and find that other copies of the same word are, also, not highlightable.  So I click on Bible Word Study.  The word is all over the place but none are highlightable. 
So I move the mouse to the Lemma [dictionary] section and select a dictionary
Now that a dictionary is open I can finally highlight that word and copy it so that I could paste it above

Please see User Voice item number eight - Copy from anywhere – 482 votes

http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4

WHY can we not copy a word on the screen?  Because:
Logos 4 paints the letters on the screen in a graphic mode.  They do not use the normal print to screen functions.  Therefore only screens where they thought that we would want to copy from have copy as text ‘turned on’.  And then came the users that wanted to copy from elsewhere!   


Comments

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    If you want to copy "δικαιόω", simply right-click on the word 'justified' (in the main Bible text or in the interlinear panel), choose 'lemma δικαιόω' from the right-hand menu, and then 'copy' from the left hand menu.

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,225 ✭✭✭✭

    Well, I'm probably badly violating the forum guidelines, the Logos4's main competitor allows copying freely (Libronix of course).

    Bob's still trying to catch up with those geniuses at Libronix Inc.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Jacob Hantla
    Jacob Hantla MVP Posts: 3,874

    See this video to see how to copy the lemma: http://screencast.com/t/HMBjziE1

    Jacob Hantla
    Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
    gbcaz.org

  • Douglas Stolberg
    Douglas Stolberg Member Posts: 41 ✭✭

    This aspect of Logos 4 is one of my favorites (sorry Denise) since I look at it as my personal "vending machine" for copying.

    I highlight a word, a sentence, paragraph, verse or multiple verses and then RIGHT CLICK on the selection area.

    I now have my "vending machine" copy selections of

    SELECTION(just what is highlighted),

    REFERENCE (whole verse),

    MANUSCRIPT(actual word used),

    LEMMA (dictionary version of the word),

    MORPH (information on the form of the Greek/Hebrew word)

    (Other Lexicon definitions)

    Why would I want to be limited to just the screen when I can have a large set of choices?

     

    image

     

  • David Ames
    David Ames Member Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭


    Well, I'm probably badly violating the forum guidelines, the Logos4's main competitor allows copying freely (Libronix of course).

    Bob's still trying to catch up with those geniuses at Libronix Inc.


    The "geniuses at Libronix Inc" use the normal print to screen functions.  Bob's Group at Logos 4 have the advantage of speed and control [the resources look much more like the dead tree versions]  but can not copy and paste.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,225 ✭✭✭✭

    Well, Douglas, you DO have a few good points. But the reason I originally bought the competing product (Libronix) was its ability to copy lines of interlinear for more detailed examination and comparison. Here's the LXX gloss line from Amos:


    1 this: 3 says 2 (The) Lord 1 "For the three impieties of Moab and for four not 2 I will turn away, 1 it 3, they burned the bones of (the) king of Idoumaia to dust., 2 So I will send fire against Moab, and it will devour (the) foundations of cities 1 its 2, and will die 2 by 3 inability 4 Moab 1 with shouting and with sound of trumpet,, 3 and I will destroy utterly (the) judge from it,, and all rulers 2 its 1 I will kill with it,", says (the) Lord..

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Douglas Stolberg
    Douglas Stolberg Member Posts: 41 ✭✭

    Denise, I admit that I am somewhat ignorant on the inner workings of Logos and since I have never owned Libronix products I can't address all the issues, but I can match the interlinear quote using my "vending machine". All it required was to adjust the "Display" menu in the pane to show "English literal translation only". The "Copy Selection" preview pane DOES show Greek but the result is the English. See below.

     1 this: 3 says 2 (The) Lord 1 "For the three impieties of Moab and for four not 2 I will turn away, 1 it 3, [I   I] they burned the bones of (the) king of Idoumaia to dust., 2 So I will send fire against Moab, and it will devour (the) foundations of cities 1 its 2, and will die 2 by 3 inability 4 Moab 1 with shouting and with sound of trumpet,, 3 and I will destroy utterly (the) judge

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,814

    Well, I'm probably badly violating the forum guidelines, the Logos4's main competitor allows copying freely (Libronix of course).

    Denise, you do understand that the Microsoft settlement with the European Union required MS to exclude IE from the "operating system". Libronix (the product name not the incorporated name) used IE for its presentation layer. Logos could not assume that IE was available as a presentation layer after the EU settlement.  The timing was such that Logos had no choice but to be an early adopter of alternative technology.

    Bob's still trying to catch up with those geniuses at Libronix Inc.

    While I have some issues (including 1 major issue) with Logos 4, the "geniuses" on Libronix had so little understanding of the various versification as to make their product unusable in considerable more instances than the "geniuses" on Logos 4. Neither seem to truly understanding lectionaries and reading plans.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭


    This aspect of Logos 4 is one of my favorites (sorry Denise) since I look at it as my personal "vending machine" for copying.

    I highlight a word, a sentence, paragraph, verse or multiple verses and then RIGHT CLICK on the selection area.

    I now have my "vending machine" copy selections of

    SELECTION(just what is highlighted),

    REFERENCE (whole verse),

    MANUSCRIPT(actual word used),

    LEMMA (dictionary version of the word),

    MORPH (information on the form of the Greek/Hebrew word)

    Thanks, I just learned something.  I've been using the Copy Bible Verses utility since I was having problems with L4 copying and pasting.  This is GREAT !  GROWL … I'm Tony the Tiger again.  [:D]

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,225 ✭✭✭✭

    Douglas ... this is really great news for the L4 developers (not having to drive over to the Bellingham Libronix HQ so much). Of course, one can with one's mouse calmly scroll down as desired in the competing Libronix product. But maybe the convenience isn't paramount.

    MJ ... I'll be a lot more comfortable after Bob solves his presentation layer problem. In the meantime, I'll be enjoying his competition's excellent piece of software design at their Bellingham HQ (while nefariously using L4 for its superior lookup capabilities of course).

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.