Personal Books and Greek font

Dean J
Dean J Member Posts: 646 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Is there anyway to import a Greek font into logos so that it can read Greek characters in uploaded Word documents? I am uploading Wallace's introductions to the New Testament, but the Greek font is not retained. I could rewrite out all the Greek (and probably will do if there is no other way), but it would be easier if there was a quicker fix.

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  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Dean053 said:


    Is there anyway to import a Greek font into logos so that it can read Greek characters in uploaded Word documents? I am uploading Wallace's introductions to the New Testament, but the Greek font is not retained. I could rewrite out all the Greek (and probably will do if there is no other way), but it would be easier if there was a quicker fix.


    Could you be a bit more specific?  Where did you get this (actually, more importantly, what is the Greek font?  You shouldn't have problems importing the Greek portions unless it's one of the old legacy fonts — even then I'm not sure there would be a problem so long as the font is specified.  The only caveat is that if you're using a legacy font you would need to have it on your machine.  I can't give you an example since everything I have is unicode, and unicode is unicode is unicode.  The only limitation on using any particular unicode font is that it would need to cover the language (Greek) that you're using.

    george
    gfsomsel

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  • Philana Crouch
    Philana Crouch Member Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭

    Dean053 said:

    Is there anyway to import a Greek font into logos so that it can read Greek characters in uploaded Word documents? I am uploading Wallace's introductions to the New Testament, but the Greek font is not retained. I could rewrite out all the Greek (and probably will do if there is no other way), but it would be easier if there was a quicker fix.

    Logos uses and can read Unicode Greek fonts. One work around that might take some time is find the Greek text from a Greek NT and copy it into your Personal Book and using Personal Book syntax to to tag the Language as Greek. It would make it show up, and be searchable.

    Blessings,

    Philana

  • Dean J
    Dean J Member Posts: 646 ✭✭

    Could you be a bit more specific?  Where did you get this (actually, more importantly, what is the Greek font?  You shouldn't have problems importing the Greek portions unless it's one of the old legacy fonts — even then I'm not sure there would be a problem so long as the font is specified.  The only caveat is that if you're using a legacy font you would need to have it on your machine.  I can't give you an example since everything I have is unicode, and unicode is unicode is unicode.  The only limitation on using any particular unicode font is that it would need to cover the language (Greek) that you're using.

    Wallace's site is bible.org. His NT introductions are at:

    http://bible.org/series/new-testament-introductions-and-outlines

     

    But unfortunately he uses some font called Biblescript from Galaxie software - http://www.galaxie.com/biblescript

    I had to download it even to view the Greek in the Word documents. I guess it isn't unicode. 

  • Dean J
    Dean J Member Posts: 646 ✭✭

    Logos uses and can read Unicode Greek fonts. One work around that might take some time is find the Greek text from a Greek NT and copy it into your Personal Book and using Personal Book syntax to to tag the Language as Greek. It would make it show up, and be searchable.

    Blessings,

    Philana

    Thanks, yes, I'll probably have to do that if I can't find a work around for the font he uses. At least there isn't too much Greek from what I can see.

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Dean053 said:


    Wallace's site is bible.org. His NT introductions are at:

    http://bible.org/series/new-testament-introductions-and-outlines

     

    But unfortunately he uses some font called Biblescript from Galaxie software - http://www.galaxie.com/biblescript

    I had to download it even to view the Greek in the Word documents. I guess it isn't unicode. 

    It says it's unicode, but apparently it's snot.  I had to download it to see the Greek myself.  I would suggest that you download the Logos Biblical Greek Keyboard and install it following the instructions in the accompanying PDF if you haven't already done so and retype each line of Greek in unicode, then copy it.  What a pain!  Are you really sure you want these?  I suppose you can simply save it as is and use his fonts, but I hardly find that appealing since you will run into problems any time you copy a portion of it.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    You can use macros to convert old documents from legacy fonts to Unicode characters. See this tread for an example: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/37520.aspx

  • Dean J
    Dean J Member Posts: 646 ✭✭

    It says it's unicode, but apparently it's snot.  I had to download it to see the Greek myself.  I would suggest that you download the Logos Biblical Greek Keyboard and install it following the instructions in the accompanying PDF if you haven't already done so and retype each line of Greek in unicode, then copy it.  What a pain!  Are you really sure you want these?  I suppose you can simply save it as is and use his fonts, but I hardly find that appealing since you will run into problems any time you copy a portion of it.

    I've used the introductions a lot and I'm a big fan of them. For all the major arguments for and against dates, authorship, place etc, it's a place I like to go. I think the keyboard idea is probably the way to go. Thanks.

     

  • Dean J
    Dean J Member Posts: 646 ✭✭

    You can use macros to convert old documents from legacy fonts to Unicode characters. See this tread for an example: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/37520.aspx

    Thanks Kevin. It looks like this could be quite time consuming, especially with accents etc, but it's something to consider. Looking around, it looks like Galaxie once offered a free converter to turn their font to unicode, but it doesn't seem to be available anymore.

  • Dean J
    Dean J Member Posts: 646 ✭✭

    http://bibleandtech.blogspot.com/2010/05/greek-legacy-fonts-to-unicode.html

    This puts any font into galaxie and then from there it can be put into Times New Roman or anything else. Apparently Wallace wasn't in galaxie, but needed something on galaxie to read it. Anyway, my files are uploading with the Greek preserved now, no problem, just by running the macros referred to on the site.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,308

    Dean053 said:

    http://bibleandtech.blogspot.com/2010/05/greek-legacy-fonts-to-unicode.html

    This puts any font into galaxie and then from there it can be put into Times New Roman or anything else. Apparently Wallace wasn't in galaxie, but needed something on galaxie to read it. Anyway, my files are uploading with the Greek preserved now, no problem, just by running the macros referred to on the site.

    I haven't looked at your macros, but saw in this thread http://community.logos.com/forums/t/41469.aspx that L3/Libronix has an automated feature to do so. I just tried Wallace's Romans Outline. He used a font named "Greek" which I don't have - but I could replace all in the Word doc to Graeca (another non-unicode font I don't own). Libronix will then convert this to a unicode font, say KadmosU - works like a charm!  

    EDIT: However, you may just use the Word font substitution feature Graham referred to in this thread and replace Wallace's "Greek" font by a Greek font that you have installed (I used e.g. TekniaGreek by Bill Mounce - available free from teknia.com) and you'll be able to read the Greek in the text and - which I didn't expect at all - Logos will build PBs with Greek text in it! 

    Hope this helps

    Mick

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile